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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #375 on: January 27, 2012, 07:08:21 PM »

this game is over.

Pakistan will crumble tomorrow ans England will knock the runs off with ease.

Probably chasing less than 100.

The series is set up perfectly for the final test.

Who said that Tests in Asian are boring?
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #376 on: January 27, 2012, 07:09:55 PM »

this game is over.

Pakistan will crumble tomorrow ans England will knock the runs off with ease.

Probably chasing less than 100.

The series is set up perfectly for the final test.

Who said that Tests in Asian are boring?
I think you've been watching the ashes 2010/2011 dvd too much :D
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #377 on: January 27, 2012, 08:15:52 PM »

My theory is Ajmals's action will be forgotten if England win the series just as this recent report from Cricinfo:

"The growing quality of pitches in the UAE has contributed to two engrossing Tests. It was widely anticipated that this could be a tedious series on unresponsive pitches. Instead, there has been enough life for bowlers to relish an even contest."

after every one condemning these pitches initially. Or this from the same match report

"But the main benefits have come from the advent of DRS. Technology is rapidly making defensive pad play a thing of the past as umpires grant lbw decisions where once they would have looked askance. The game is different now: livelier, more combative and eminently more watchable. The downside is that lbw decisions are at an all-time high but with the future of Test cricket in such doubt, technology has provided a timely shot in the arm. "

which is certainly more upbeat about the impact of DRS than Bob Willis after Ajmal's five lbws in the first innings of the first test.

Of course this is all conjecture...

I'm sorry, you've completely lost me. What has DRS got to do with Bob Willis saying Ajmal is a chucker?

DRS is a good thing though.....apparently Simon Taufel hates it though? No idea why....
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #378 on: January 27, 2012, 08:24:31 PM »

this game is over.

Pakistan will crumble tomorrow ans England will knock the runs off with ease.

Probably chasing less than 100.

The series is set up perfectly for the final test.

Who said that Tests in Asian are boring?

I think I would rather be in Pakistan's position than England's, if they can get another 100 it will be a nail biting chase.
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #379 on: January 27, 2012, 08:27:06 PM »

I think I would rather be in Pakistan's position than England's, if they can get another 100 it will be a nail biting chase.
Why?
Pakistan are effectively at 55-4, and, with a tail which managed to add 1 run for the loss of 3 wickets in the last innings, I can't see this match going any way other than England.
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #380 on: January 27, 2012, 08:33:25 PM »

I'm sorry, you've completely lost me. What has DRS got to do with Bob Willis saying Ajmal is a chucker?

DRS is a good thing though.....apparently Simon Taufel hates it though? No idea why....

Bob's point that a lot of England players would not have been given lbw if there was no DRS. He was sad about the whole affair. Now its a good thing all of a sudden. Sour grapes...

So my point is Ajmal is a chucker as long as he gets between England and the series. No problems in County Cricket last year when he did get people out on doosras (I saw a couple in T20s). And then the theory that English batsman started to falter in the last session yesterday because he was bending the arm more.
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #381 on: January 27, 2012, 08:36:55 PM »

Great fightback by England; this is how you apply yourselves in alien conditions. The game can go either way still.
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #382 on: January 27, 2012, 09:16:14 PM »

I am glad so far that Pakistan has not folded as they have done consistently over the last couple of years. They might skittle out in the first session tomorrow but so far they have shown some resolve. I think England are clear favorites to win at this stage but a good morning session by Pakistan can put some doubts in the mind of English players.

I think batting has been pretty much even in the series and Pakistani spinners have been more dominant than their English counterparts. The English pace attack is clearly superior a position which Pakistan has not been familiar with broadly over the last couple of decades. Stuart Broad, who I have always admired as a bowler, is underrated internationally as a Test Bowler. Watching him bowl with all his subtle movements and variations (although not so subtle gestures) always reminds me of how Mohammad Asif used to outfox batsmen. I think he can probably reach that level but it depends upon his attitude and commitment to cricket.
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #383 on: January 27, 2012, 10:19:38 PM »

Bob's point that a lot of England players would not have been given lbw if there was no DRS. He was sad about the whole affair. Now its a good thing all of a sudden. Sour grapes...

So my point is Ajmal is a chucker as long as he gets between England and the series. No problems in County Cricket last year when he did get people out on doosras (I saw a couple in T20s). And then the theory that English batsman started to falter in the last session yesterday because he was bending the arm more.

I don't know what test match you've been watching but DRS has only accounted for one batsman in this entire game (as of close of play today only 1 decision has been overturned)



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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #384 on: January 27, 2012, 10:42:40 PM »

I don't know what test match you've been watching but DRS has only accounted for one batsman in this entire game (as of close of play today only 1 decision has been overturned)

The whole discussion is not on the DRS but the willingness of umpires to give LBW to batsman when playing spin even if they take a big stride but are in line with the stumps. In years gone by it was a a useful strategy to pad up against spinners because umpires would not give you out while getting a big stride in unless you were playing across the line.

Have you watched the matches and analysis or is it from Cricinfo  ;)
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #385 on: January 28, 2012, 09:43:21 AM »

monty takes 6, Eng need 145 to win.
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #386 on: January 28, 2012, 10:13:02 AM »

monty takes 6, Eng need 145 to win.

Just a shame that it took a 10-wicket defeat and an injury to Tremlett before he was picked!
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #387 on: January 28, 2012, 10:20:25 AM »

3rd umpire shocker...
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #388 on: January 28, 2012, 10:22:14 AM »

It's mostly not out when they use long lense as distorts things

Unlucky for bell
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #389 on: January 28, 2012, 10:23:58 AM »

Squeaky...Bum...Time :(
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