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JM video
« on: January 16, 2012, 10:40:05 AM »

Watching the the video on the screaming cat website, it appears to me that JM is over oiling the bats - when infact he isnt. In the past i would have used one and a half teaspoon for the whole bat at most to avoid over oiling. he pours it on the toe too. this year im gonna use his "oiling the toe" advice and go without a toe guard, just oil the toe instead.
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Re: JM video
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2012, 10:42:18 AM »

thats what I was thinking, he pours it on!
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Re: JM video
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2012, 10:47:31 AM »

I'd assume the drier climate in Australia requires more oil.
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Re: JM video
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2012, 10:49:43 AM »

possibly to avoid drying out the bat. . .i see your point

but what about a "wetter" or humid climate to avoid taking moisture on board and adding weight??
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Re: JM video
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2012, 10:53:13 AM »

possibly to avoid drying out the bat. . .i see your point

but what about a "wetter" or humid climate to avoid taking moisture on board and adding weight??

The humid climate is the problem I have in QLD and it would be the same in NT as well. It isn't always hot up here, and has actually been a pretty sedate summer by QLD's usual standards, but the humidity is usually always there and that's what kills you and makes the air heavy. So some oil is a must for us, in order to prevent the extra moisture possibly adding weight to your bat.
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Re: JM video
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2012, 11:00:55 AM »

Don't take this the wrong way guys but why is it that all the "bat nerds" on this forum are still second guessing themselves on how to oil a bat properly? Hell I have even read posts on here where guys won't oil bats at all because they once over oiled their bat and ruined it.

Surely we know how to oil a bat by now?

26 years in the game and I have never ruined a bat because I didn't oil it properly.

Follow what the bat maker/manufacturer says and all should be fine. Use common sense and your own judgement.
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Re: JM video
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2012, 01:36:00 PM »

Me neither but the amount of oil used was suprising, which was the point of the thread.
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Re: JM video
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2012, 01:42:44 PM »

I have spoken about that with him he said it is because of climate. And he also said that rather than over oiling lots of bats are being under oiled thesedays.
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Re: JM video
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2012, 02:22:35 PM »

nevered oil'd a bat and all mine have been fine? so dont see the need two
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Re: JM video
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2012, 02:26:01 PM »

Light coat before knocking in, light coat at the start of the season ( for used bats really) light coat at the end before its put to bed for the winter.

JM does seem to use alot but i guess he believes its needed. Who am i to argue with a legend of bat making.
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Re: JM video
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2012, 03:39:04 PM »

nevered oil'd a bat and all mine have been fine? so dont see the need two

My team mates say that proudly but as johners said we are challenging JM's knowledge and abilities really.
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Re: JM video
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2012, 03:39:56 PM »

and what if oilding a bat makes it perform better... :o
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Re: JM video
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2012, 03:44:46 PM »

and what if oilding a bat makes it perform better... :o

I have heard from him drying deteriorates the performance
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Re: JM video
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2012, 03:49:54 PM »

I once put loads of oil on a bat and it wrecked the performance. I now put a very fine layer every now and again and it's fine. Moral of the story, don't over oil your bat. I've seen my teamates stick 3 coats on and the thing looks like a yellow submarine, no thanks. If JM wants to stick 5/6 coats on then go for it, he's a batmaker and knows what he is doing and when to do it.
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Re: JM video
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2012, 03:51:52 PM »

IMO, half or one teaspoon of oil would not cause any harm. For drier climates, a teaspoon a few months apart helps. When playing in India, i did notice that the bat does loose moisture and a teaspoon of oil always helped to get the response back. I usually oiled only the face and not the back or the toe. The wickets are very dry in India and on the bats that I oiled the toe got damaged more from tapping than those which were left un-olied. Just my experience.

Here in the UK, I use half a teaspoon before knocking it in and possibly half a teaspoon at the end of the season to protect it during the winder from drying due to the central heating.

Oiling the toe in the UK makes a lot of sense as wickets are moist and invariably when tapping on the wicket some moist soil sticks to the toe. Toe guards help but they also hide any toe damage which only becomes visible when it has gone really worse.
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