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[19reading87]

 As asked in the title what are peoples general thoughts on bats and their shapes....

What advantages are there for large edges etc compared to bat say with the GM purist profile....

Feel free to discuss
 

[Manormanic]

Got to say that for me, the advantage of bats with chunky edges is that I have much more control over where I'm hitting the ball; because of the size of the edges, I don't get the blade twisting on impact the way I sometimes do with a more classical shape, and I can't really say that I have ever noticed a loss of power when I time the life out of one as a result of the lack of spine height.

[PedalsMcgrew]

I am no expert but I have always thought that thick edges widen the middle of a bat and a more traditional profile lengthens it.

The holy grail therefore is a bat that offers the best of both worlds. Trouble is, in order to achieve this you need to put more concaving into the back of the bat to maintain a sensible weight and to my mind all this does is lessen the impact of both those characteristics...

So the question is do you want a long middle or a wide one? I guess this comes down to the type of player you are......

[Manormanic]

interesting point - I wonder how much the weight of bat I use (3lb or a little more) might affect the responses that I've referred to!

[PedalsMcgrew]

interesting point - I wonder how much the weight of bat I use (3lb or a little more) might affect the responses that I've referred to!

I guess when you're able to wield something of 3lb+ (I'm far too puny!) then you can overcome some of the drawbacks I mentioned. At that kind of weight you can get the best of both worlds with little to no concaving....which is a result if you're strong enough to use it.

Just conjecture of course, I'm sure many on here know better!

[Manormanic]

Just looked at a few of mine and even the older ones were all free of concaving.  Personally I like that - concaved bats look like women who've dieted a bit too far, just plain wrong!

[roco]

I guess when you're able to wield something of 3lb+ (I'm far too puny!)

You did ok with my sachin

[tim2000s]

Please read Andy SAF's Blog. It discusses concaving versus non-concaving very astutely.

http://www.safbats.co.uk/BAT-BLOG/cricket-bat/cricket-bats-edges-concaving-myths-smoke-and-mirrors

And in commentary about traditional versus sharks fins and length of sweet spot, the length of the spine determines this and not really the shape of the wood.

[Mr Cricket]

for me the most important advantage is having something that i like, whether it be 3lb and concaved to the max or an absolute twig at 2'6 its just got to feel right.

[Manormanic]

I don't think there are many players who would be as happy with a 3lb-er as with an absolute twiglet!

[Joe]

In the past I have bought 2lb 12-13oz bats and taken some weight off down to 2.9-2.10. You get the badman middle but lighter

[Ryan]

I think we're concentrating on weight rather than profiles. Profile which best suits a player will depend on their style of batting and the pitches they play on.

Personally I love the traditional profile of my Salix however I scored a few runs last year with a heavily concaved blueroom. I would personally say its how the bat "feels". If it's right then doesn't matter on the profile. Runs will come.

[tim2000s]

To be honest,  I don't think concaving affects profile. Profile is about where the middle is and concaving is how big the edges are relative to the rest of the bat. With that in mind I like a profile le with a mid to low middle...

[Manormanic]

I think we're concentrating on weight rather than profiles. Profile which best suits a player will depend on their style of batting and the pitches they play on.

I guess; though I'm not even sure I agree with a lot of the received wisdom on this point - I mean, I play on one of the fastest tracks in Middlesex and end up predominantly a back foot player as I bat three.  Yet I always go for bats with a lot of weight and a low middle...


Thinking about it, its interesting to see how many manufacturers make bats with high middles really, given that the majority of club players seem to like them lower or low.  I wonder who actually buys bats like M&H's Amplus?

[tim2000s]

I guess; though I'm not even sure I agree with a lot of the received wisdom on this point - I mean, I play on one of the fastest tracks in Middlesex and end up predominantly a back foot player as I bat three.  Yet I always go for bats with a lot of weight and a low middle...


Thinking about it, its interesting to see how many manufacturers make bats with high middles really, given that the majority of club players seem to like them lower or low.  I wonder who actually buys bats like M&H's Amplus?

I suspect that if you talk to Norbs, most players use a bat with a lowish middle. Most of us don't play on bouncy decks.