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How to use a trigger move
« on: February 14, 2012, 05:40:08 PM »

BAck and across

DO you take guard then in your trigger move step so you are on your guard?
MOST IMPORTAINTLY
How do you time your trigger move?
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Re: How to use a trigger move
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2012, 05:41:01 PM »

If you need to ask, it won't work for you! It should be completely second nature, and if it isn't, it will take concentration away from all your other cues!
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Re: How to use a trigger move
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2012, 05:42:02 PM »

Simple, DON'T!
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Re: How to use a trigger move
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2012, 05:45:46 PM »

many people have triggers!

only time i trigger to off is if i want to moooo one from outside off to cow lol
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Re: How to use a trigger move
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2012, 05:48:49 PM »

I used to trigger across but then I took Sir Buzzs advice on not having a trigger so it made a big difference so as Tim said simply don`t have trigger.
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Re: How to use a trigger move
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2012, 06:04:20 PM »

I only trigger to quicker bowlers but if I do I time my trigger to finish just before ball is delivered so head still when ball is delivered
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Re: How to use a trigger move
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2012, 06:23:22 PM »

use the search function this question has been asked a few times.

if in doubt stand still.
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Re: How to use a trigger move
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2012, 06:24:48 PM »

All Essex coaches told me to use a trigger. If your a decent player facing decent bowling then they are very helpful.
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Re: How to use a trigger move
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2012, 06:32:40 PM »

The alternative is to balance on the balls of your feet so you are ready to move. That's what a trigger is for after all...
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Re: How to use a trigger move
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2012, 06:47:02 PM »

The alternative is to balance on the balls of your feet so you are ready to move. That's what a trigger is for after all...
which is good enough for sachin and the stig...
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Re: How to use a trigger move
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2012, 06:57:34 PM »

I find the whole trigger debate interesting. They can be good at getting your feet moving and moving your body into a more dynamic position.

If your going to use one i'd say do it early as to be balanced when the ball is bowled.

A number of top players use them so they cant be too bad. As essexarsenal said maybe they are more useful against better bowling which requires faster reactions and there is less room for errors.

Its also important to differentiate between the different triggers depending on bowling type.

Against a real quick you may want to just go back and with your back foot.

For medium bowlers then the same back and across movement but also a small movement forward.

Against spin there is no real need to go back so just a move forward with the front foot is fine.

All that said I dont generally use one, though if Im struggling to get my feet moving then Ill give it a go.
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Re: How to use a trigger move
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2012, 07:30:50 PM »

I think triggers become second nature when you are in form, sometimes the absence of them says more!

However if you are struggling with moving your feet then take a look at the deliveries you are struggling with first ie. wide outside off or dealing with short balls might mean a back and across movement. If you are late on full deliveries perhaps a slight forward press. Raising your bat early might also help free those twinkle toes up. Worth a bowling machine session to identify the cause and work on a remedy.
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Re: How to use a trigger move
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2012, 08:20:54 PM »

Trigger movements have been discussed loads of times before - here are a few 
http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=11721.msg188469#msg188469
http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=12382.msg198865#msg198865
http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=9365.msg147432#msg147432
http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=8290.msg188349#msg188349
http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=6170.msg89183#msg89183

And just for good measure..
Trigger movements
In my experience, the refrain ‘I am having trouble with LBWs’ is frequently mentioned in the same paragraph as ‘I trigger back and across’. Well, at least 99 per cent of the time. It is not to say that the trigger is at fault, but more that this can be a symptom of this particular movement.
The first things that you should be concerned with are where you stand and what your stance is. It is a modern fad that batsman are encouraged to stand with a wide base and then have a trigger movement. Personally, I see people trying it, but I believe it totally over-complicates batting – watching an out-of-form Kevin Pietersen or Paul Collingwood will emphasis this point.
Your stance should be comfortable and relaxed, a trigger is used to release the tension and help your feet move against fast bowling. Unless you are playing Division 1, Premiership or a higher standard, I think it is unlikely you are facing anyone fast enough to make it worth considering a trigger movement. Look how still and balanced Michael Clarke, Matt Prior or Eoin Morgan are at the crease, even against the quickest of bowlers – these players thrive on simplicity of technique, which I like to encourage.
If you must have a trigger movement, ensure that it takes you into the correct position, rather than moving you away from the correct position, which is the classic fault of an amateur cricketer. If you have a chance, watch how Ian Bell and Jonathan Trott play – they are two wonderful contemporary technicians, who are very relaxed and natural at the crease; when they play, their trigger movements almost glide into position. Both aim to retain a still head. 
As I have said, the key is in the position you are standing when the ball is released, which must be still, regardless of trigger movements, with your leading eye (or outside eye) over the off stump. To get this right, work backwards from where you need to be at the moment of release – your right eye (if you are right-handed) should be over off – stump. You might need to spend some time in front of the mirror to get this right – work out where your trigger takes you and take a guard that results in your ability to arrive in the right position to play the ball. Your key objective should be to stop moving into a position that leaves you vulnerable to being ‘trapped’ or ‘pinned’ on the crease and then either out bowled or more likely LBW.
A useful practice method is to have someone underarm used tennis balls (so they don’t bounce as much) at you get used to your new stance and batting routine. This is an especially good way to work on the front foot shots, while you practise either with or without your trigger. Then, progress to over arm tennis ball deliveries and, finally, facing a cricket ball.
Just to reiterate, I warmly encourage you to ditch the trigger!
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Re: How to use a trigger move
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2012, 08:30:32 PM »

The alternative is to balance on the balls of your feet so you are ready to move. That's what a trigger is for after all...

If its good enough for Sachin I'll give it a go. Personally I think little tips like this and the suggestions on here are one of the best things about this forum. I had quite a bit of coaching when I was younger but after 10 years away from cricket stuff like this makes me think more about my game. feet movement is definitely an area I need to improve on.

Now all I need is someone to teach me how to defend properly, pick the right ball to hit - and bowl about twice as fast as I currently do.
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Re: How to use a trigger move
« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2012, 08:40:37 PM »

Personally, I use my finger to pull the trigger and bang.

Tbh, I tried using a trigger and it over complicated my batting. I'm still small but my reactions have improved, so I don't feel I need it as much at the level of cricket I play atm.
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