Topic: Confused By Choice (Read 20766 times)

Riggers · « **Reply #60 on:** February 29, 2012, 09:54:22 PM »

I think this is the best price so far �540 for all 3 bats. I might have my 2020 bat mad like the Gray Nicols Edge having used one tonight. Awesome bat and the handle is weird but really works.

junter97 · « **Reply #61 on:** February 29, 2012, 10:08:56 PM »

Just to let you know, Woodstock have 10% off softs as well. An option could be to get the gray nics copied by Woodstock at no extra cost, or get award winning TDF in an XL model.

tim2000s · « **Reply #62 on:** February 29, 2012, 10:58:02 PM »

Aside from all the free advertising that Woodstock have had this evening, the batoffs with normal players using bats have highly rated Laver and Wood, Charlie French, Instinct and others. Neither m&h nor wood stock are the be all and end all of suppliers.

Opener · « **Reply #63 on:** February 29, 2012, 11:01:47 PM »

I was really pleased with my Woodstock last year.

I would also recommend Charlie French and if bought off the forum they are great value.

Riggers · « **Reply #64 on:** March 05, 2012, 12:12:06 PM »

I was all set on getting Woodstock bats but so many things did not add up with it all and I saw that John is the bloke who was at Newbery as he has pictures of him on his website and not Michael as you said he was. And when i spoke to him last week he said he made everything and when I said I would get my match bat copied he yes but when I said I wanted to choose the clefts and watch them being handled and pressed he said no he was to busy and even though I said I would come up whenever he wanted he was not going to let me. Plus other people have cast lots of doubt on him and they have bats just the same for less money.

Dan W · « **Reply #65 on:** March 05, 2012, 12:44:55 PM »

They sound all the more dodgy from your disingenuous assertions you yourself are a punter off the street when actually you are (clearly) an employee.

That's not 'successful' nor 'business sense', that's desperate and undignified.

Riggers · « **Reply #66 on:** March 05, 2012, 12:45:23 PM »

OK so you make good points. You have been to watch him make yours so you can promise me he makes all the bats himself and not just sand them after buying them ready made. And can you promise me that you are only saying this beacsue you have tried the bats and not because you are part of Woodstock in some way?

Red Ink Cricket · « **Reply #67 on:** March 05, 2012, 01:05:31 PM »

Quote from: Riggers on March 05, 2012, 12:45:23 PM

OK so you make good points. You have been to watch him make yours so you can promise me he makes all the bats himself and not just sand them after buying them ready made. And can you promise me that you are only saying this beacsue you have tried the bats and not because you are part of Woodstock in some way?

i think its best to make up your own mind. There are obviously some very biased opinions on certain companies. are they employed or are they just raving as they have good kit? we can speculate but will probably never know. There is a wealth of knowledge on here and nobody can deny that. Whilst some of it is possibly rumour id say a huge % is fact. I know first hand that Woodstock use CNC'd part made clefts. Ive had some from them, they were unshaped but toes and shoulders had been CNC'd. Do they do that all the time? do they just finish part mades? who knows.there arent many places in the uk that can CNC so putting 2 and 2 together = TK or one of the brands/companies he supplies. He gets his reputation because he is good, thats why so many people use his bats/ part mades etc etc. The woodstock bats are good and yes they won an award but thats not everything.
My advise is to do what you feel comfortable doing. if you have reservations about a brand, remove them from the list. Having dealt with Matt at H4L you cant go wrong. Ayrteks customer service is outstanding but never used their kit. Any of the forum sponsors will give you an outstanding service. Id go for one that gives you the option of speaking to the bat maker. If you want the full service from cleft to bat then there arent too many to choose especailly if you want to watch

Riggers · « **Reply #68 on:** March 05, 2012, 01:11:29 PM »

I only wanted to watch it being made from the cleft as John told that was what he did with every single bat and Im still allowed to watch it being shaped and sanded but why can he take the time to offer to do 3 bats like this but not just press one bat as Im really into seeing this happen as everyone says it is the most vital bit of batmaking.

Riggers · « **Reply #69 on:** March 05, 2012, 01:15:44 PM »

Quote from: Johnnog19 on March 05, 2012, 01:10:49 PM

Dan,
Sorry you're CLEARLY wrong. Not at all an employee. I work in a completely different industry. Chin up pal. John is a long term friend and I love my kit so peraps I am biased but you'd be the same.

Can you read my questions and let me know please.

Johnny · « **Reply #70 on:** March 05, 2012, 01:16:56 PM »

Guys, we do need to be careful talking about who subcontracts what and who to.

Whilst it might be fun for us forumers to speculate, there can be knock on effects to the companies being bandied about. For instance, a brand might lose it's contract with a supplier if it s felt that any non-dislosure type agreement has been breached etc...

Or subversely, a supplier might lose a contract with a certain brand if they don't feel they are getting enough exclusivity of the product (e.g. why buy brand X, when brand Y is the same bat, but cheaper and with different stickers)

So please guys BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU POST

Also, Johnno has told the admins he does have a personal relationship with Woodstock (NO, not like that

) - he's agreed to tone down any promotion of their products

Dan W · « **Reply #71 on:** March 05, 2012, 01:23:17 PM »

Quote from: Johnnog19 on March 05, 2012, 01:10:49 PM

Dan,
Sorry you're CLEARLY wrong. Not at all an employee. I work in a completely different industry. Chin up pal. John is a long term friend and I love my kit so peraps I am biased but you'd be the same.

My mistake then, I assumed you were this person:

http://www.facebook.com/johnno.gordon

My apologies

Red Ink Cricket · « **Reply #72 on:** March 05, 2012, 01:24:14 PM »

i cant speak for the 'he has a press/he doesnt have a press' discussion but i would imagine it could be one of a few options

he doesnt have a press so cant offer that service
he doesnt want to show you any pressing secrets he has
or he hasnt got time to show you that.

if your really keen on watching someone press a bat then you need to look at those brands we know definately have a press. Matt at H4L may well be able to let you watch him press but not the whole process.

other option is check out the various videos online. they never show the whole pressing process but you get the idea

Riggers · « **Reply #73 on:** March 05, 2012, 01:26:59 PM »

He said it would take him 3 hours to make a bat and I could come up and spend a whole day while he made all 3 abts but when I said how long would it take to watch 1 being pressed and handled he said he would have time to do that part so I said I would just pick the clefts with him and watch him start 1 bat and leave him my match bat to be copied twice but he said no to this but yes to sepnding a whole day there.

And can you conform you have watched him press and handle?
And can you confirm you are not part of Woodstock not work for them but are part of the business as 2 people say you are a director?

Yes Matt at H4L said I can watch him press and so did Charlie French

lazza32 · « **Reply #74 on:** March 05, 2012, 01:29:07 PM »

well spotted dan

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