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Re: what would you do?
« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2012, 11:45:08 AM »

I've never walked and in my opinion the umpire is there for a reason.

I obviously walk if I've hit it to 3rd slip lol
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Re: what would you do?
« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2012, 11:50:28 AM »

In principle I agree, and when I used to play in Yorkshire I was a committed walker, to the extent where I once walked off when there was not even an appeal because, well, I knew I'd hit it and it would not have felt right to stay.

Since moving down South, I've gone the other way to the extent that I now have to be prised from the crease with the crane.  I don't want to play that way, but I've seen so many disgraceful displays of deliberate, knowing cheating that I came to the conclusion that I'd accept the umpires decisions but do nothing to help them out.  Whether its the side who are heard chatting in Urdu about how noone will know if they count the ones as twos and add a few wides to the score or the batsman last season who stretched to drive a wide out swinger only for the keeper to catch it diving way down the legside who swore blind that the ball must have hit a stone, you do sometimes wonder what the point is!

A clear conscience is worth it manor
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Re: what would you do?
« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2012, 11:54:57 AM »

In principle I agree, and when I used to play in Yorkshire I was a committed walker, to the extent where I once walked off when there was not even an appeal because, well, I knew I'd hit it and it would not have felt right to stay.

Since moving down South, I've gone the other way to the extent that I now have to be prised from the crease with the crane.  I don't want to play that way, but I've seen so many disgraceful displays of deliberate, knowing cheating that I came to the conclusion that I'd accept the umpires decisions but do nothing to help them out.  Whether its the side who are heard chatting in Urdu about how noone will know if they count the ones as twos and add a few wides to the score or the batsman last season who stretched to drive a wide out swinger only for the keeper to catch it diving way down the legside who swore blind that the ball must have hit a stone, you do sometimes wonder what the point is!

If you played in Yorkshire I'm surprised you walk, no other buggers do up North lol . Level of cheating in Yorkshire is right up there with the best. We didn't have an LBW given for 6 weeks because everybody knew we were the best team in our division by miles and wanted to do anything they could to stop us.

Go as far as saying I've found the opposite, guys in the South walk more often. I also think the higher the level of cricket you play the more common sense (and neutral umpires) come into play.
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Re: what would you do?
« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2012, 11:55:20 AM »

this is funny cos this happened on SAT! ryan was going u cant use that lad lol told umpires

umpires just said get on with it.. so im gonna buy biggest dirtest lam i can find lol

Was a little bit upset as i was bowling at the time and could just imagine the ball disappearing out of the ground
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Re: what would you do?
« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2012, 11:58:06 AM »

Go as far as saying I've found the opposite, guys in the South walk more often. I also think the higher the level of cricket you play the more common sense (and neutral umpires) come into play.

I suspect for both of us its a chronology thing - I played there years ago, as you did here, and behaviour has got worse in both.  I'd still say that the conduct was better up North on the whole though! 
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Re: what would you do?
« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2012, 11:58:34 AM »

A clear conscience is worth it manor

I wish I were still convinced by that!
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Re: what would you do?
« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2012, 12:00:46 PM »

I wish I were still convinced by that!

Sounded righteous... Haha
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Re: what would you do?
« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2012, 12:04:53 PM »

I suspect for both of us its a chronology thing - I played there years ago, as you did here, and behaviour has got worse in both.  I'd still say that the conduct was better up North on the whole though!

I mentioned the standard of cricket for a reason. I played a higher overall standard in the South compared to the Village stuff in the North. My team are a very talented bunch of proper serious cricketers working our way up the league but some oppo teams are a bit clueless and crap, bordering on footy yobs at times imho. Always seems to be the remote villages outside the major towns!
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Re: what would you do?
« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2012, 12:43:44 PM »

I mentioned the standard of cricket for a reason. I played a higher overall standard in the South compared to the Village stuff in the North. My team are a very talented bunch of proper serious cricketers working our way up the league but some oppo teams are a bit clueless and crap, bordering on footy yobs at times imho. Always seems to be the remote villages outside the major towns!

Hmmm...factual similarities exist, in that I played a lot higher standard when I was younger up North!
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Re: what would you do?
« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2012, 05:02:44 PM »

Having only really played in the South I couldn't compare however I generally find people in the league I play (Middlesex) in will not walk....to the point that sometimes even with a blatant edge to the keeper a batsman will stand his ground and wait until the finger goes up. Personally I don't agree with it and will always walk if I feel I've made contact, there's been a couple where I'm not always sure so I'll stand my ground and see what the ump says.

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Re: what would you do?
« Reply #25 on: April 24, 2012, 05:36:53 PM »

Having only really played in the South I couldn't compare however I generally find people in the league I play (Middlesex) in will not walk....to the point that sometimes even with a blatant edge to the keeper a batsman will stand his ground and wait until the finger goes up. Personally I don't agree with it and will always walk if I feel I've made contact, there's been a couple where I'm not always sure so I'll stand my ground and see what the ump says.

You're playing in the Middlesex Cheationship then?   :D
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Re: what would you do?
« Reply #26 on: April 24, 2012, 05:50:44 PM »

I had a similar thing when an opposition player seemed to be using a graphite Kahuna. Not sure of it's legitimacy I didn't say anything, was out for about 20 anyway.

If I knew someone was using a laminate I would consult the umpire and ask them to look at the bat. It would be their judgement then.
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Re: what would you do?
« Reply #27 on: April 24, 2012, 05:52:05 PM »

i played a season in australia and cant remember one instance of a player walking, one or 2 still stood when the ball went to first slip. also saw a fair few players still using the carbon backed kahuna which im pretty sure was outlawed a fair while back
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Re: what would you do?
« Reply #28 on: April 24, 2012, 07:05:25 PM »

Personally I always walk if i Know ive hit it, as i know how frustrating it is as a bowler to have someone not walk.

Worst one ive had is someone that got a thin edge to the keeper and was given out by the umpire, He then refused to leave the pitch saying he hadn't touched it and the umpiring was a "complete joke" after a while we couldn't be bothered to argue and carried on but his stumps were shattered 2 balls later so it worked out.  >:(
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Re: what would you do?
« Reply #29 on: April 25, 2012, 10:47:56 AM »

Haha! I am indeed Manormanic.... I've played in some games where some of the deicions have been bordering on the hilarious.
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