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Pro's and cons of weight reduction.
« on: July 07, 2012, 07:20:58 PM »

I have been debating whether to get some weight taken off my Woodstock, as it is to heavy for me and it was a present of Dad for my 21st, so I'm not really wanting to sell it.

So my question to the bat makers is, how much affect will weight reduction have on the bat? (obviously I know that the middle will be reduced as a bat weighing 2'14 is going to have a better 'ping' than something weighing 2'10)

I apologise if this has been discussed before but I had a little search and I can't find anything!

I will upload a couple of pictures of the bat in a little while, just watching NCIS.
Help will be very much appreciated

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Re: Pro's and cons of weight reduction.
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2012, 07:32:00 PM »

Few I can think of;

- Ping
- Swell thickness
- Pick-up
- Balance
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Re: Pro's and cons of weight reduction.
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2012, 07:35:12 PM »

erm

Not entirely true

The weight of a bat has nothing to do with performance to a degree.

It about the skill of the maker things like pressing quality

In the case of a reduction it depends where the weight is coming from


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Re: Pro's and cons of weight reduction.
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2012, 07:39:13 PM »

response from the bat is extremely good, and I'm not sure where woodstocks clefts are pressed.
his contacts with newbery previously may suggest something, but I don't want to start a debate on that again

edges are fairly big, around 43mm, with a large spine as well, I will get measurements and pictures as soon as I can
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Re: Pro's and cons of weight reduction.
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2012, 07:46:53 PM »

erm

Not entirely true

The weight of a bat has nothing to do with performance to a degree.

It about the skill of the maker things like pressing quality

In the case of a reduction it depends where the weight is coming from

Yes but mass does affect performance if I'm not mistaken. If mass is reduced then bats strength is affected as its weakened.

I could be wrong.

I'd wait for Tim2000s response on this
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Re: Pro's and cons of weight reduction.
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2012, 08:08:47 PM »

yes with the same bat it may but mass around shoulder and toe is the area not the middle/core...

weight to a degree is not the main factor in power of a cricket bat

where bloody norbs when you need him..
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Re: Pro's and cons of weight reduction.
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2012, 08:15:44 PM »

As far as I can see, weight reduction is just cons!! No 'pro's' at all! The bat was made at a specific weight by the maker and it was balanced at that weight. If you remove weight from it you'll never get the balance of it right again...I've never used a weight reduced bat that felt anywhere near as nice as the original bat or a bat made at the 'right' weight in the first place....

I wouldn't bother buddy, just get in the gym!!!  :D
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Re: Pro's and cons of weight reduction.
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2012, 08:17:46 PM »

I had weight taken off a bat from 2.12-13 lbs to 2.10, The result was a slight reduction in length of the middle and slightly thinner edges . There was only minimal reduction in performance. The best thing that happened was being able to use it more rather than selling it on.
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Re: Pro's and cons of weight reduction.
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2012, 08:25:05 PM »

What are you looking to get it down to and what is its current weight? Weight reductions if done right you will barely notice any difference. Also depends how much your taking off but if it's an ounce or 2 then it won't matter. If your taking out 4+ ounces your probably goin to notice a change. Edge and spine size will be reduced or will be heavily concaved.
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Re: Pro's and cons of weight reduction.
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2012, 08:43:30 PM »

As far as I can see, weight reduction is just cons!! No 'pro's' at all! The bat was made at a specific weight by the maker and it was balanced at that weight. If you remove weight from it you'll never get the balance of it right again...I've never used a weight reduced bat that felt anywhere near as nice as the original bat or a bat made at the 'right' weight in the first place....

I wouldn't bother buddy, just get in the gym!!!  :D

I've hurt my elbow mate so I've been using light bats...
And I don't think I'll be turning back as it's worked, the game I played since I changed, I got 34, where as before I hadn't scored above 15


Keep the comments coming in, I like that I've created a bit of a debate here :D
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Re: Pro's and cons of weight reduction.
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2012, 08:49:55 PM »

I see Ryan and Beachy are viewing this, let me know your opinions guys don't be shy :D
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Re: Pro's and cons of weight reduction.
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2012, 08:52:32 PM »

If done properly - when I have seen it done it is at the toe and splice - it can be fine and performance/balance/pickup is unaffected. Find a good batmaker and make sure he only touches the bottom 4in and top 8 inches of the bat.
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Re: Pro's and cons of weight reduction.
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2012, 09:00:13 PM »

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Re: Pro's and cons of weight reduction.
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2012, 09:02:31 PM »

How much weight was taken from it Blazer?
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Re: Pro's and cons of weight reduction.
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2012, 09:03:39 PM »

A heavier bat "pings" better than a lighter bat = nonsense

Has Mr Woodstock got a press?

Or is he like most of the proclaimed "bat makers" who buy in pre pressed clefts and then shape it.
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