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Re: KP having another hissy fit......
« Reply #165 on: August 27, 2012, 12:42:44 PM »

there does seem to be a clique of Anderson, Cook, Swann, Broad, Bell with perhaps Bresnan and Finn as their underlings who have a disproportionate level of influence there...
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Re: KP having another hissy fit......
« Reply #166 on: August 27, 2012, 01:19:32 PM »

I think half the players should be ashamed of themselves

Half of them need to sort it out becausev there a real school play ground feeling
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Re: KP having another hissy fit......
« Reply #167 on: August 27, 2012, 02:05:54 PM »

Bring back KP. End of.
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Re: KP having another hissy fit......
« Reply #168 on: August 27, 2012, 03:26:28 PM »

there does seem to be a clique of Anderson, Cook, Swann, Broad, Bell with perhaps Bresnan and Finn as their underlings who have a disproportionate level of influence there...
How do you know all this?
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Re: KP having another hissy fit......
« Reply #169 on: August 27, 2012, 06:44:49 PM »

This all sounds completely skewed. People are pointing the fingers at all sorts of other players as being as bad as KP. I would suggest however that spats / arguments / criticisms must go on between this tight-knit bunch of players all the time.

Yet none of these are ever leaked. Referring you back to the phrase 'tight-knit'  there must now be a reason why KP's comments and behaviour is constantly being leaked.

A person could come to the conclusion that he is universally disliked, disruptive and counter-productive to team spirit?
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Re: KP having another hissy fit......
« Reply #170 on: August 27, 2012, 06:48:27 PM »

And wins crickets matches too more than possibly the other tight nit lot
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Re: KP having another hissy fit......
« Reply #171 on: August 27, 2012, 07:03:47 PM »

I'm with Fattus on this one. There is too much mud flying around about KP for at least some of it not to be true. He might well be the best player we've got but if no one else in the side likes him, and having him in the side has an adverse impact on the other players performances then it's fairly obvious that he shouldn't be anywhere near the team. The best teams are more than a sum of their parts and in this case I think KP is a minus!

I'm not saying that he should never play for England again but I think a long rest in the winter then give him a call for the first two tests of next summer and see how much he really wants to play for England instead of playing the whole IPL....

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Re: KP having another hissy fit......
« Reply #172 on: August 27, 2012, 07:09:40 PM »

And wins crickets matches too more than possibly the other tight nit lot

I think we should agree to disagree David - and as a symbol of our respectful agreement, I think you should let me use your Scoop!
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Re: KP having another hissy fit......
« Reply #173 on: August 27, 2012, 07:52:47 PM »

that will come back new then Dave lol and KP forever im afraid Brucie and should your bottom ever come north i have a scoop for you to try but only under my well trained eye ( actually thats not strictly true but they are mine now ). 
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Re: KP having another hissy fit......
« Reply #174 on: August 27, 2012, 08:10:38 PM »

Being liked or tight knit doesn't win you games. But having world class players does. Warne was despised. Bradman had enemies in his own side. But they got on with it, and the team was stronger for it.
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Re: KP having another hissy fit......
« Reply #175 on: August 27, 2012, 08:43:07 PM »

So he must be really bad then, if this team of really tight-knit players can't work with him!
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Re: KP having another hissy fit......
« Reply #176 on: August 27, 2012, 11:55:12 PM »

So he must be really bad then, if this team of really tight-knit players can't work with him!

Or these bunch of tight nits spoiled brats and have figured out why have him if they dont have to...KP might be horrible to deal with but this will set a precedence for the rest of the players as well, days when you looked at Pakistan or India and laughed abt infighting and politics are over and now are coming to England...

You get selected based on your skill as a player and not to make friends, you need to be able to work with the team and same applies to the team...
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Re: KP having another hissy fit......
« Reply #177 on: August 28, 2012, 03:29:12 AM »

Jonathan Agnew tweeted the link for this article yesterday. I don't know how reputable the People is as a paper (http://www.people.co.uk/sport/other/cricket/2012/08/26/headingley-bust-up-sealed-kevin-pietersen-s-fate-102039-23921406/), but he apparently singled out Taylor for criticisim.

Kevin Pietersen stunned his England team-mates with a dressing-room tirade at the Headingley Test - even singling out debutant James Taylor for criticism.

The disgraced batsman has been frozen out of the England set-up since revelations that he sent text messages critical of skipper Andrew Strauss to members of the South African team.

But People Sport can reveal England's players were angered by Pietersen boasting of his importance to the team after he ended the third day of the second Test at Leeds on 149 not out. He then stunned team-mates by making derogatory remarks about 22-year-old rookie Taylor, who had just played a fine patient innings of 34 in a 147-run partnership with Pietersen.

That caused one senior player to snap at Pietersen and confront him. And it is believed this was the moment Pietersen's England team-mates finally lost their cool with the South Africa-born star. The flashpoint came on the night KP made his infamous 'it's tough being me' press conference, when he cast doubt on his England future. The tourists completed a 2-0 victory in the three-Test series by winning the final match at Lord's on Monday, with Pietersen axed.

Despite announcing an about-turn and declaring himself available for all forms of international cricket in a bizarre video on the internet two weeks ago, Pietersen was left out of England's one-day and Twenty20 squads this week.

The decision not to select the 32-year-old followed the texting incident, in which Pietersen allegedly called Strauss a 'dumb c***' in Afrikaans slang.

He later dismissed the controversial episode as 'banter between close friends', but Strauss said he felt 'let down' by his team-mate's actions.

Peace Pietersen is still seeking peace talks with Strauss when the Test skipper returns from holiday this week, but has not impressed ECB bosses by accepting a lucrative commentary deal with ESPN STAR Sports for next month's Twenty20 World Cup in Sri Lanka.

The fall-out from any criticisms Pietersen might make of his England team-mates would aggravate the situation further.

KP is unlikely to be handed a new ECB central contract next month and may never play for England again, with fellow players fuming at his dressing-room conduct.

Coach Andy Flower admitted this week the texts sent to South African players Dale Steyn and AB de Villiers were far from the only reason behind Pietersen's axeing.

And his outburst in the dressing room is said to be at the heart of the dispute.
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Re: KP having another hissy fit......
« Reply #178 on: August 28, 2012, 07:38:39 AM »

Statistically England do better without KP in limited over cricket - just saying!
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Re: KP having another hissy fit......
« Reply #179 on: August 28, 2012, 07:55:21 AM »

Statistically England do better without KP in limited over cricket - just saying!

I wish I could have any confidence that the same would be true in tests...
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