Topic: How much and grade? (Read 4572 times)

Slab · « **on:** May 14, 2009, 06:54:34 PM »

hi,

How much do you think this bat is worth? + grade

Help appreciated

Tom · « **Reply #1 on:** May 14, 2009, 06:55:24 PM »

G2 �50

ianbuchanan · « **Reply #2 on:** May 14, 2009, 06:56:19 PM »

i would say the same as tom, may get a little more as it looks in good condition

slogger02 · « **Reply #3 on:** May 14, 2009, 07:00:43 PM »

G2 for certain, providing the profile is not a complete let down and the maker of the bat is half decent should fetch �70 i reckon

Tom · « **Reply #4 on:** May 14, 2009, 07:05:58 PM »

Handle and squarish toe looks like that of a Pakistani manufacturer, AS or MB I'd say.

SillyShilly · « **Reply #5 on:** May 14, 2009, 07:18:02 PM »

Just out of interest - when having to grade a bat purely on cosmetics - what is it that you look for that would define it between grade 1,2 and 3?

slogger02 · « **Reply #6 on:** May 14, 2009, 07:28:50 PM »

Quote from: Tom on May 14, 2009, 07:05:58 PM

Handle and squarish toe looks like that of a Pakistani manufacturer, AS or MB I'd say.

make that 50/60 then if toms right

slogger02 · « **Reply #7 on:** May 14, 2009, 07:30:13 PM »

Quote from: SillyShilly on May 14, 2009, 07:18:02 PM

Just out of interest - when having to grade a bat purely on cosmetics - what is it that you look for that would define it between grade 1,2 and 3?

direct from js wright and sons

-A Grade 1 Blade

A Grade 1 is the best looking blade money can buy, though it will not necessarily play the best. There may be some red wood evident on the edge of the bat. The grain on the face will be straight and there will be at least 4 grains visible. There may be the odd small knot in the edge or back but the playing area should be clean.

A Grade 2 Blade

A Grade 2 blade is also very good quality and normally a larger amount of red wood can be seen on the edge of a bat, this has no effect on the playing ability of the bat it is purely cosmetic. Again there will be at least 4 straight grains on the face of the bat with maybe some blemishes, pin knots or "speck" visible.

A Grade 3 Blade

This is the grade we produce and sell most of and it offers very good value for money. A Grade 3 Blade has up to half colour across the bat and is sometimes bleached, again this has no direct relation to the playing ability of the wood, it just has less visual attraction. There will be a minimum of 4 grains on the face of the bat which may not always be perfectly straight. Again some small knots or a little 'butterfly' stain may be present with perhaps more prominent "speck".

A Grade 4 Blade

A Grade 4 Blade is normally over half colour or contains butterfly stain (see our page on Imperfections in Willow). This wood is also normally bleached just to make it "look better", it will still play as well as the other grades. Any number of grains are possible and the willow containing 'butterfly' stain is very strong, there could also be more "speck".

Tom · « **Reply #8 on:** May 14, 2009, 07:35:18 PM »

The real JS Wrights grading is a lot different and more complex to that.

slogger02 · « **Reply #9 on:** May 14, 2009, 07:37:34 PM »

yes i've read it, but this is a simple insight into it and should answer sillyshillys question adequately

SillyShilly · « **Reply #10 on:** May 14, 2009, 07:46:11 PM »

cheers slogger - it's funny but if i saw a bat with 4 or 5 grains i wouldn't look twice, yet it could be grade 1. I only ask as i have seen a number of bats that would fit into the grade 1 category only to have people on this forum suggest it was grade 2 or 3. Curiously, they suggest that the cosmetic aspect is what makes it grade 1 rather than the performance, is this said to cover themselves do you think? Would you grade your bats that you make like this tom?

Tom · « **Reply #11 on:** May 14, 2009, 07:50:59 PM »

I just look at a bat and say instantly what I think it is after a quick glance of the profile and grain. No real method about it because if I go and make rules about marks in the face, back or wherever I'm bound to find bats which are too beautiful to sell as G4's but under the rules they may be.

SillyShilly · « **Reply #12 on:** May 14, 2009, 08:02:34 PM »

that fair enough, i was just curious thats all and i suppose it gives the manufacturers a lot more chance to name their bats as grade 1 willow given what i would say were pretty low expectations.

CG · « **Reply #13 on:** May 14, 2009, 08:09:35 PM »

From that, on grains it would be G1 as G1 I believe qualifies to have at least 7 grains or something (correct me if i'm wrong, off top of my head). However, doesn't look like G1, grains aren't paticularly straight or evenly spread out and I would say that it's probably been imported because of the Squarish toe (mentioned previously) which is often done in Pakistan and then stickered by brands. Probably �85 for something like that I'd say, depending on profile. Hope this helps.

Apple · « **Reply #14 on:** May 14, 2009, 08:25:48 PM »

CG is rite 7 grains is the minium of grains for grade 1

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