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Re: Rebuilding the England team
« Reply #30 on: August 20, 2012, 03:45:21 PM »

taylor has the potential to be a very good test cricketer imo.
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Re: Rebuilding the England team
« Reply #31 on: August 20, 2012, 03:49:56 PM »

I'm not so sure! However, I'm completely happy to be wrong, and will not argue lol. I think he's worthy of his spot, just a little bit bitter about Hildreth not getting his chance when he was clearly the 'next cab off the rank' (although that was a while ago and he wouldn't be worthy at the mo).
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Re: Rebuilding the England team
« Reply #32 on: August 20, 2012, 06:47:26 PM »

I'm not so sure! However, I'm completely happy to be wrong, and will not argue lol. I think he's worthy of his spot, just a little bit bitter about Hildreth not getting his chance when he was clearly the 'next cab off the rank' (although that was a while ago and he wouldn't be worthy at the mo).

not sure Hildreth ever really proved he was the man.  Too many runs on shirt fronts...
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Re: Rebuilding the England team
« Reply #33 on: August 20, 2012, 06:51:52 PM »

You forget the series that he captained the lions team and scored 3(?) hundreds against India A and West Indies A I think. He was definitely the best player not playing for England at that point!
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Re: Rebuilding the England team
« Reply #34 on: August 20, 2012, 06:52:43 PM »

really?  he just seems a bit innocuous to me, kind of similar to Chris Silverwood as a bowler who hit great numbers on a speed gun but was not really much more than gun barrell straight at the top level, whereas Mills, whilst obviously needing time to develop, seems to get some action on the ball and has the massive advantage of being a left armer.

Mills has taken ridiculous wickets in 2 counties cricket the past few weeks
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Re: Rebuilding the England team
« Reply #35 on: August 20, 2012, 06:59:40 PM »

Do we think England have lost because they aren't good enough, or have they just not performed, or are SA just THAT good!?

Can Strauss take the team any further? Can't see us going to India and winning.

Not sure what changes if any should be made???

Having struggled to bowl SA out in this series I think a 5 man attack would have been a good shout, but England not prepared to give it a go

No we struggled because where not as good as we and them think they are.

We still have our yardstick at the Aussie and there to be honest a poor unit indeed and we thought we beat them we beat anybody..

Truth is Proteas wanted it more and man for one just about edged it and the KP and Broad incident did not help matter.

We still are a very capable team without a doubt and anybody think Trott is finished get real (found out rubbish he was found out by the Aussie but nobody fights harder for England)

We have world class players in Cook,Trott,KP,Prior, we just need more consistency from a few of the bowlers and Batsman to be honest we will be fine.

Bairstow has earned his spot for sure looked a very good player even if he is from t'er side ov hills..


Strauss has been the leader of some good cricket sides from our country maybe it is time for him, maybe not but i do not see a major re-bulding need doing we got beat by the best side in the world simple as that
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Re: Rebuilding the England team
« Reply #36 on: August 21, 2012, 08:15:43 PM »

Think I found the answer whilst playing a bit of international cricket tonight
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Re: Rebuilding the England team
« Reply #37 on: August 21, 2012, 08:24:04 PM »

lol!
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Re: Rebuilding the England team
« Reply #38 on: August 29, 2012, 11:30:06 AM »

So this is definitely now relevant.

For me (after clear the air talks with all the players and KP in 1 room together)

Cook
Trott
Bell
KP
Taylor
Bairstow
Prior
Broad
Swann
Anderson
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Re: Rebuilding the England team
« Reply #39 on: August 29, 2012, 11:37:17 AM »

KP will not play for England again! I will bet my mortgage on it!
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Re: Rebuilding the England team
« Reply #40 on: August 29, 2012, 11:44:01 AM »

I also think it's unlikely, if he is going to then clear the air talks need to be held with cook.

A window of opportunity has opened for him, how much he wants it/can he surpress his ego will decide if he plays again

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Re: Rebuilding the England team
« Reply #41 on: August 29, 2012, 11:51:59 AM »

Without Strauss and KP now, major problems in the middle order. Trott and Cook opening, Bell at 3, Prior at 7, Bowlers all the same, but the middle order is the sticky issue.

Only a month ago Bairstow was not good enough, Taylor has played 1 test,Morgan is out of favour and Bopara's head is in the clouds. Who else has test experience in there? No one. I believe JT can bat at 5 and Bairstow at 6, they should atleast be given ago, but that is probably the most inexperience middle order in world cricket, however, you only gain experience by playing.

The problem is a Test class no4, none of the players in county cricket, Root and Compton are the only two anywhere near the standard, but I'd say since he's been through the system Root would be prefferred and may open.

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Re: Rebuilding the England team
« Reply #42 on: August 29, 2012, 12:00:14 PM »

Robert key as a stop gap if we're looking for a opener or deny


Root will get his chance but on Bunsen burners in India is not the time
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Re: Rebuilding the England team
« Reply #43 on: August 29, 2012, 12:03:03 PM »

Oh and the better option maybe Alex hales or Sam northeast.

Guess either Compton or root then
« Last Edit: August 29, 2012, 12:07:13 PM by procricket »
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Re: Rebuilding the England team
« Reply #44 on: August 29, 2012, 12:08:31 PM »

What about Ben Stokes?  Have him at 6, and then you have the flexibility of picking 2 frontline spinners and 2 frontline seamers...
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