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[hell4leather cricket]

Unfortunately stickers/designs do sell bats , a poor design will put people off buying them whoever there made by .

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Made by the same batmaker that has made for at least 2 forum sponsors.

Not giving much away there are you

[M77]

Unfortunately stickers/designs do sell bats , a poor design will put people off buying them whoever there made by .

And even in my opinion that is a shame.

There are some very talented people out there that make fabulous bats to rival what is perceived to be the best in the world. Yet unless you dress them up for the magpies they won't get looked at.

I'm not complaining as it gives me work and an opportunity to work in an arena i love. But i will admit to finding a little sadness when it comes to the true hand crafted items... why cover up something like willow when it is truly a natural beauty.

I'm somewhat tainted by chat and time spent with podshavers from James through to Andy... but i can see why it hurts them when people bang on about labels rather than the thing that matters. But in this very polarised view of the wider spectrum... we continue to make things shine, sparkle and fizz with elegant and articulate designs... it keeps you happy and the batmaker in business.

Your opinions count, but i'll pick and choose carefully whose i act upon.. 

[Vantage_Cricket]

bit of an interesting one when I was looking through google images of cricket pads

http://www.cricket-box.co.uk/acatalog/Cricket-box_Moulded_Batting_Pads.html - I'm unaware of the M+H RRP on their new 'lightweight' top of the range pads, however these look very similar to me at a bargain price!

[Colesy]

Think Globe are going to be stocking them.

Globe Sports?

[100 not out]

I know SCS had some close ties with Bradbury too.

[toenails97]

It's not just the stickers that put me off - rarely do you see so many blemishes on supposed "top end" bats.

Not sure I can agree here with you Paul as if you look at some of the kook players lorimers puts up on eBay they are awful, as was my gray nicolls oblivion players!

[Manormanic]

There are some very talented people out there that make fabulous bats to rival what is perceived to be the best in the world. Yet unless you dress them up for the magpies they won't get looked at.

see both sides of this - there are certainly a lot of people, though not so much on here, who want ultimo bling and player-sponsorship "credibility" from their gear.  For me, and I suspect a lot of people will agree with me on this one, I buy a bat for the quality of the willow and of the design/shaping.  Labelling is referred to so much for two reasons - because, when done well (Newbery, Black Cat, M&H) it adds a classy, understated touch to the bat, and because when done badly, it looks downright bloody horrible...

[tim2000s]

see both sides of this - there are certainly a lot of people, though not so much on here, who want ultimo bling and player-sponsorship "credibility" from their gear.  For me, and I suspect a lot of people will agree with me on this one, I buy a bat for the quality of the willow and of the design/shaping.  Labelling is referred to so much for two reasons - because, when done well (Newbery, Black Cat, M&H) it adds a classy, understated touch to the bat, and because when done badly, it looks downright bloody horrible...

I'm not overly concerned about willow "Quality". What I want is to know the bat I've bought is going to rebound satisfactorily, so the maker has pressed and shaped it to the best of his ability and will stand behind it and say "It's fabulous" (well maybe except for my soon to arrive Dynadrive, but that's an emotional purchase, and we all know Gray Nics will say that anyway...). Ultimately if you buy a Sabre, and it goes, but you hate the stickers, you can always remove them.

But then there comes the other side of the equation. We all know just how much of the game is mental, and if you find a Sabre with a lovely shape that picks up perfectly, and you decide to buy it, but in the back of your mind is that little bit of "I don't know if I really like the stickers", will it affect your play? Does this tiny chink mean that with not 100% confidence in your bat, you will find yourself using it poorly and ultimately deciding that "Sabre bats are rubbish", in spite of the quality of the manufacture or willow?

[norbs]

And even in my opinion that is a shame.

There are some very talented people out there that make fabulous bats to rival what is perceived to be the best in the world. Yet unless you dress them up for the magpies they won't get looked at.

I'm not complaining as it gives me work and an opportunity to work in an arena i love. But i will admit to finding a little sadness when it comes to the true hand crafted items... why cover up something like willow when it is truly a natural beauty.

I'm somewhat tainted by chat and time spent with podshavers from James through to Andy... but i can see why it hurts them when people bang on about labels rather than the thing that matters. But in this very polarised view of the wider spectrum... we continue to make things shine, sparkle and fizz with elegant and articulate designs... it keeps you happy and the batmaker in business.

Your opinions count, but i'll pick and choose carefully whose i act upon.. 

After working with you I now understand that branding means alot more then I ever though it ought to, I might not like it but the truth of the matter it does... 

A bit like having a larger edge, it shouldn't matter but it does

[Bruce]

I know SCS had some close ties with Bradbury too.

I'm not certain, but perhaps that was more to do with the kit they were making for Somerset a few years back, as a sponsor.

[norbs]

see both sides of this - there are certainly a lot of people, though not so much on here, who want ultimo bling and player-sponsorship "credibility" from their gear.  For me, and I suspect a lot of people will agree with me on this one, I buy a bat for the quality of the willow and of the design/shaping.  Labelling is referred to so much for two reasons - because, when done well (Newbery, Black Cat, M&H) it adds a classy, understated touch to the bat, and because when done badly, it looks downright bloody horrible...

I have to say Newbery massacred that John Newbery bat model [I cant remember where I saw it though]

[Tom]

They were Bradbury distributor. They stopped in 2010/11, Jon Hardy took it on and the SCS boys started Sabre

[Tom]

I have to say Newbery massacred that John Newbery bat model [I cant remember where I saw it though]

Dying the line of grains into the wood was interesting though on that bat.

[norbs]

Dying the line of grains into the wood was interesting though on that bat.

Didn't know that....! Where are the pics again mate?