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norbs

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Pressing is it all that?
« on: September 19, 2012, 09:11:27 AM »
While I'm causing controversies pressing is it really the dark art that makes a bat ping.... or is it the willow and the profile that does the brunt of the work?
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Re: Pressing is it all that?
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2012, 09:22:09 AM »
Why don't you tell us Norbs.....we know you want to..... :D :D :D
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Re: Pressing is it all that?
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2012, 09:23:31 AM »
The culmination of all parts... even the relationship between bat maker and the client.

Pressing is an art form to eek out extra from something that would naturally have some decent properties... a skilled worker turns good into great.

I can press a bat Norbs its just that you'd do it better... experience, knowledge count for a hell of a lot.
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Re: Pressing is it all that?
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2012, 09:26:21 AM »
Not sure you can turn poor willow into great willow though just by pressing
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Re: Pressing is it all that?
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2012, 09:28:41 AM »
Quote from: Number4 on September 19, 2012, 09:26:21 AM
Not sure you can turn poor willow into great willow though just by pressing

No one said you can polish a turd  :o  ;)

But i'd put money on a decent bat maker getting the best from it and turning it into something that gets bought.

Can you see SS or SG throwing away willow??? I think not
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Re: Pressing is it all that?
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2012, 09:30:05 AM »
how do you know how much pressure to put on a bat in a press?

Throwing away willow :o I'll take it lol
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Re: Pressing is it all that?
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2012, 09:32:55 AM »
I'm sure there has been plenty of £50 planks sold by many bat makers.
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Re: Pressing is it all that?
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2012, 09:33:57 AM »
The thing is do get more gain from the shape and willow then the pressing

I'm veering toward the shape and willow nowadays...

The worse thing you can do to a piece of willow is over press it


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Re: Pressing is it all that?
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2012, 09:34:22 AM »
Pressed by streaky
Made by machine


I guess I miss this controversy


My theory about pressing shape and pie crust theory all come from blogs by andy
The willow needs to be understood as a unique enterty and pressed and shaped by the craftsman who understands the natures of the willow and what is best for that peice and the shape is crafted to get the best to suit th willow type and all done under the watchful eye of a master bat maker

In laymans terms each bit needs pressing and shaping differently to get the best out of it


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Re: Pressing is it all that?
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2012, 09:36:19 AM »
procricket is it the shape and willow that makes your bat what it is for you or the pressing
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Re: Pressing is it all that?
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2012, 09:38:07 AM »
Quote from: procricket on September 19, 2012, 09:34:22 AM
Pressed by streaky
Made by machine


I guess I miss this controversy


And the thing is it'll all be regurgitated again in 12 - 18 months ;-)

Same old, same old!  :D
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Re: Pressing is it all that?
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2012, 09:43:34 AM »
I don't think it has a great deal to do with shape... I have had bats with completely different shapes that have been guns... Willow definitely.... Pressing... Probably... Don't know enough about pressing to be honest as its all secret bat makers business
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Re: Pressing is it all that?
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2012, 09:46:24 AM »
For a user it is the shape and willow

People talk about pressing on here and I understand theory but like most do not understand the reality

If you lined 10 bats up you could guess the shapes of most but even if we used would not have a clue about pressing and who by I wouldnt

I care about consistency within the brand and bats that is my only issue
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Re: Pressing is it all that?
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2012, 09:47:16 AM »
Quote from: norbs on September 19, 2012, 09:33:57 AM


The worse thing you can do to a piece of willow is over press it

Spot on...   :)

You can handle, shape a nice dry cleft and from experience it'll go pretty well.... it wont last very long but plays ok with not pressing other than pulled over steel bars by hand. But press it to death and its as good as table leg!



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Re: Pressing is it all that?
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2012, 09:48:05 AM »
I'm not sure whether or not pressing would improve the performance or not, however it would certainly improve the durability of the blade by compressing the fibres, just like how we do it when we knock it in...  Knocking in just acts like another form of manual pressing
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