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MEchTEN V2
« on: September 25, 2012, 07:06:29 PM »

If you are going to do it you may as well do it with traditional tools

C to V MEchTEN V2

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Re: MEchTEN V2
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2012, 07:13:57 PM »

looks very nice as always :)
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Re: MEchTEN V2
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2012, 07:23:28 PM »

would a v to c profile work?
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Re: MEchTEN V2
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2012, 07:50:09 PM »

Am I right in thinking the v area is the sweet spot and the c areas the non hitting areas?
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Re: MEchTEN V2
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2012, 07:51:55 PM »

Beautiful looking bat. A big chunky toe to boot.

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Re: MEchTEN V2
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2012, 08:18:54 PM »

Am I right in thinking the v area is the sweet spot and the c areas the non hitting areas?


http://www.whichcricketbat.com/cricket-bat/mechten-v-2-c-to-v-profile

Andy's blog should cover it?

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Re: MEchTEN V2
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2012, 08:51:01 PM »

im with Joe id like to see a V to C profile leaving the wood in the hitting area
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Re: MEchTEN V2
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2012, 08:53:25 PM »

im with Joe id like to see a V to C profile leaving the wood in the hitting area

Would it work though?  :o

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Re: MEchTEN V2
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Re: MEchTEN V2
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2012, 09:07:17 PM »

Middles too high Nobby - it's no 'Aggro' is it!
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Re: MEchTEN V2
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2012, 09:28:06 PM »

Middles too high Nobby - it's no 'Aggro' is it!

actually pics not brilliant... mid low that goes to middle middle based on swing weight and balance... the profile is about what it does in the swing and how the bat reacts to the impact

but your right it isnt the Aggro, I've not read the idea behind that profile and therefore what it is suppose to too...
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Re: MEchTEN V2
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2012, 01:31:18 AM »

From what I have read in the blog, it would seem that a V to C wouldn't actually follow the way the bat was intended to work. I think the convex shape up top is intended to lower the energy lost by vibration, as there is more wood up top of the bat. More mass up there = less vibration therefore less energy lost. (At least that's how I have interpreted it!) Not sure if I am right or not, but surely a concaved top with a convex bottom would go against what this shape is trying to achieve? That being said, the Helios I am using has very thin shoulders and is more of a V to C shape, and it goes like a rocket! Maybe a C to C shape would work? The pick up wouldn't be nearly as heavy as a V to C bat, as there is still a decent chunk of wood up the top, and also you keep the benefits of the more efficient energy transfer to the shot along with a larger playing area. (I could be so wrong in my interpretation of the theory behind this, so I apologise in advance if what I'm saying is ridiculous!  :-[)

"Varying shapes will have differing natural frequencies for these bending modes so a bat with a notch removed from the blade will have lower frequencies with then a bat of similar weight without a notch taken out of it." The way I see it is if you concave the top part, you are removing a larger percentage of wood from that area compared to concaving the middle, and if you don't concave the middle slightly, the bat itself won't have the same feel/balance which you would ideally be looking for!

I really like the shape of this bat, despite not being a huge fan of concaving. It reminds me a little of the GN Phoenix, which was probably my favourite GN shape, albeit the only GN shape I have owned! :D I agree with Fattus though that the middle seems like it could be lower, but that's just my opinion! 8)
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Re: MEchTEN V2
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2012, 07:02:07 AM »

c to c shape: Newbery Tour :)
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Re: MEchTEN V2
« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2012, 08:55:04 AM »

From what I have read in the blog, it would seem that a V to C wouldn't actually follow the way the bat was intended to work. I think the convex shape up top is intended to lower the energy lost by vibration, as there is more wood up top of the bat. More mass up there = less vibration therefore less energy lost. (At least that's how I have interpreted it!) Not sure if I am right or not, but surely a concaved top with a convex bottom would go against what this shape is trying to achieve? That being said, the Helios I am using has very thin shoulders and is more of a V to C shape, and it goes like a rocket! Maybe a C to C shape would work? The pick up wouldn't be nearly as heavy as a V to C bat, as there is still a decent chunk of wood up the top, and also you keep the benefits of the more efficient energy transfer to the shot along with a larger playing area. (I could be so wrong in my interpretation of the theory behind this, so I apologise in advance if what I'm saying is ridiculous!  :-[)

"Varying shapes will have differing natural frequencies for these bending modes so a bat with a notch removed from the blade will have lower frequencies with then a bat of similar weight without a notch taken out of it." The way I see it is if you concave the top part, you are removing a larger percentage of wood from that area compared to concaving the middle, and if you don't concave the middle slightly, the bat itself won't have the same feel/balance which you would ideally be looking for!

I really like the shape of this bat, despite not being a huge fan of concaving. It reminds me a little of the GN Phoenix, which was probably my favourite GN shape, albeit the only GN shape I have owned! :D I agree with Fattus though that the middle seems like it could be lower, but that's just my opinion! 8)


Damn I wasn't going to bother answering this as I'll end up ranting but here goes.... All concaving works we know that [so V to V], C to C is just a traditional bat so we know that works... V to C would not worked for me because it will not be balanced and not give what I need to make sure the moment of inertia is doing what it is suppose to work with my offset edges and also with vibration damping..... 

That brings me neatly on to the middles to high bit, the middle is lower then it looks in the pictures but even so that is not really the point.  When you swing a bat the sweetspot moves that is the whole idea behind the offset edge principle to account for this move so therefore this bat may look highish [especially in these pictures] but when you use it isn't

Regardless of all this you've forgotten something that is quite important to me, you've forgotten to say that middle is to high for me.... Why!!! Well I'm a custom bat maker so if you look at one of my bat profiles and say that middle is a bit high you've forgotten I dont buy in bats or sticker them up on standard profiles, I dont pretend I make them, I do. They are all handmade to customer requirements, the middle can be moved on any bat profile, which I design from scratch. I've even gone to the point of offering a curved face, flat faced option on the blade for the pressing requirements. 

I dont mind if you dont like, I can easily live with that. I do mind if you pigeon hole a bat based on a middle position, when I try so hard to state what I do and how I do it....

I knew I was going to rant!

Here are couple more pics and I hope you can see the edge and spine in a better light....




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