Style over Substance
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What would you want from a top end glove?

Looks Cool
- 10 (33.3%)
Best protection
- 13 (43.3%)
Nothing radical
- 3 (10%)
Something plain
- 3 (10%)
A reworked version of the same old design
- 1 (3.3%)

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Voting closed: October 22, 2012, 07:26:24 PM

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M77

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Style over Substance
« on: October 17, 2012, 07:26:24 PM »

Having had to design a number of gloves this summer I dissected a number of top end gloves to break down their inner workings to see how things could be improved. Everything from foam density, cavity foams and even materials from the motor industry have been looked at.

But when it comes to looks often people stick to what they no... this leaves me with a bit of an issue and the question for a glove design (that i have and continue to work on for Affinity) that i know will be one of the safest for your paws yet will come at the cost of something odd in the way that it looks. (not feels, they feel very good)

But be honest in your feedback and in your vote as i have watched many an item getting panned.

Would you be as critical if the changes in aesthetics simply made something designed to protect you the best you could buy?

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Re: Style over Substance
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2012, 07:29:08 PM »

Start with the Salix gloves and see where that takes you...

looks, design and protection please all for £40 a pair with english pittards palms.

am I asking too much?
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Re: Style over Substance
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2012, 07:30:17 PM »

I've bought and use an ayrtek. Enough said. Having said that, at most levels of cricket, do you need the best hand protection? Are the bowlers fast enough or canny enough to warrant it? Having said that, both my current pairs of gloves are top of range modern style bought in sales to get best protection.
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Re: Style over Substance
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2012, 07:38:33 PM »

I think it has to be an equal blend of both. I don't think many would buy the best looking gloves if they offered little protection, regardless of the level they played at.

We know that in many cases, aesthetics such as stickers has a big influence on what brand of bat someone might go for. If they had 2 bats with similar performance, 9 out of 10 times the buyer will choose the one that looks good as well.

With that in mind I think softs are very similar. You want to know you are getting decent protection for the money and then it would come down to a choice of looks. I think what comes first with glove choice though is comfort.
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Re: Style over Substance
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2012, 07:40:08 PM »

Start with the Salix gloves and see where that takes you...

looks, design and protection please all for £40 a pair with english pittards palms.

am I asking too much?

Buzz, im beyond that in terms of materials... same old same old...

Tim2000s in general yes bowlers are just not at the levels i play. The point of these new gloves it to take the impact a leading glove cannot.
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Re: Style over Substance
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2012, 07:45:50 PM »

Unless you're sponsoring or supplying kit to a number of players to help sway public opinion, then you find it very very difficult to sell an odd looking glove no matter how good the grip or protection.
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Re: Style over Substance
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2012, 07:47:22 PM »

I always tell people at my club to splash out a little more on gloves so when they get hit it doesn't hurt, the amount of times i see people get hit then shake their hand in pain whereas I'm just able to get on with the next ball thanks to my Ayrteks. Always worth extra money.

Obviously the design will get people's attention and they won't buy gloves that look naff
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Re: Style over Substance
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2012, 07:54:56 PM »

Unless you're sponsoring or supplying kit to a number of players to help sway public opinion, then you find it very very difficult to sell an odd looking glove no matter how good the grip or protection.

I'm not really after a player buying the glove as I doubt more than 10 will ever exist through me and less than 5 pairs will make it for sale. Whilst its very relevant, with any difficulty there is opportunity.

Doing anything that actually benefits is often the hardest challenge of all as Ayrtek would testify too... breaking convention is a much harder route but one i feel is worthwhile when you are asked about your contribution to the development of safety in the game.
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Re: Style over Substance
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2012, 07:59:00 PM »

So if there are only 5 going to be sold, and the aim is to produce the best protective glove to improve safety - does our opinion on those aesthetics matter? As we're then not really the target market for such a product.
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Re: Style over Substance
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2012, 08:16:30 PM »

Might be me but I like flexibility, comfort, grip and sweat resistance. If you can't grip a bat in comfort and maintain that grip it's a bit pointless it looking good or offering superior protection.
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Re: Style over Substance
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2012, 08:33:50 PM »

I'll try them out for you Marcus. I'm not afraid of something that looks different. Even if I don't need the protection.
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Re: Style over Substance
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2012, 08:43:32 PM »

The question is how do u know if l need the protection until its too late? Having done my dissertation on gloves I'd have to brush up on it to see what frequency of injuries etc occurred.

A Beamer that u fend off with ur hand that could potentially break your finger etc. if the product is right people will invest, the ICC have gloves on their next project to do list after helmets so there must be some issues surrounding them in their current format. (I accept at our levels it's a rarity to see a serious finger injury but still happens) but at the pro level at least.
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Re: Style over Substance
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2012, 09:27:46 PM »

Gloves are my recent obsession, I've got the ayrtek elites and some ayrtek club but I'm constantly on the lookout for new ones. To a degree the comfort and protection (not that I've ever actually been hit on the gloves ever for some reason) are the main things I look for.

I'd certainly be interested to see the new glove designs but I'm not sure I'd wear anything that was too wacky - the new kook mittens for example are probably good but I really don't fancy them.
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Re: Style over Substance
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2012, 09:36:52 PM »

I'd be interested to see as using sausage at month but used all sorts incl Arcas gloves which were interesting pair of gloves
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Re: Style over Substance
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2012, 11:48:01 PM »

How many have tried the aero mitts? Sadly their sizing was terrible, and they were tiny, but the idea was great and I bought a pair. Interesting idea that failed physical limitations for me, rather than concept.
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