Topic: Other Custom Batmakers and forum exposure (Read 11434 times)

Simmy · « **Reply #15 on:** October 22, 2012, 11:41:38 AM »

there has been a few bad reviews from L&W etc ... but i think its because most of the small bat makers do not produce bad bats as they quantity they make they can make sure that every one is @ least half decent..

when u compare them to the big boys they produced 1000's so some of them are bound to be bad..

alot of forum makers get mention cos we are on the forum and thats what we see ..

Manormanic · « **Reply #16 on:** October 22, 2012, 11:46:05 AM »

Oh, I get that, but I wonder why some of the other brands mentioned which are perfectly good never get discussed and why whenever there is need for a recommendation the same niche brands *who are all forum sponsors* are mentioned with no mention of other potentially excellent manufacturers.

I'm not suggesting there is anything sinister to this on the part of the forum's admin team or even its members, I just find it interesting that we, who as a collective would like to think ourselves the cognisenti, appear so sheep-like in our answers!

uknsaunders · « **Reply #17 on:** October 22, 2012, 11:55:37 AM »

One reason is phrasing of the question. When they don't mention location or they don't want to visit somewhere:-

ie an answer to "I'm in so and so and want to visit" - if it's Yorks and they want to visit someone it's Kippax / Raje / Warrior for example. No sponsor in that area and maybe only 1 or 2 in other areas but the choice expands or contracts depending on how you see it.

but if somebody says "I want a bat for under xxx" we all naturally slip into online mode thinking the guy is ordering from his pc. We then interpret the question as "who do we trust to order a bat from online".

It is a bit sheep like when you look at it that way.

tushar sehgal · « **Reply #18 on:** October 22, 2012, 11:57:21 AM »

Quote from: Manormanic on October 22, 2012, 11:46:05 AM

Oh, I get that, but I wonder why some of the other brands mentioned which are perfectly good never get discussed and why whenever there is need for a recommendation the same niche brands *who are all forum sponsors* are mentioned with no mention of other potentially excellent manufacturers.

I'm not suggesting there is anything sinister to this on the part of the forum's admin team or even its members, I just find it interesting that we, who as a collective would like to think ourselves the cognisenti, appear so sheep-like in our answers!

My take on this is as a customer who lives outside of UK I have very little knowledge/awareness about all the other small brands out there. So when a question is asked I go back to what I have used, which is due to them being sponsors here.

tim2000s · « **Reply #19 on:** October 22, 2012, 12:01:09 PM »

People join the forum to find out about non-mainstream kit. The kit that has been mostly bought eminates from the sponsors and so the feedback loop is "I trust this or that sponsor, so I'll recommend them". It's all self fulfilling. Added to that that the sponsors generally participate in the discussions around their kit and it helps to add to the volume around trusting a sponsor.

Those who don't participate are generally doing fine without the forum, and given the number of members and the buying power here, I suspect that they aren't overly concerned about the business that isn't referred...

Manormanic · « **Reply #20 on:** October 22, 2012, 12:03:23 PM »

I don't disagree with any of that per se, but Iam still surprised that our more knowledgeable (and perhaps older) members never mention non-sponsors (apart from Chase, who get the odd mention from one member)

thecord · « **Reply #21 on:** October 22, 2012, 12:28:18 PM »

Redback are not a forum sponsor and they get a fair few mentions although their popularity seems to have dropped off over the last year or so

Manormanic · « **Reply #22 on:** October 22, 2012, 12:37:18 PM »

Apart from leo using one, I don't think I've heard more than the odd passing referene to them - indeed, I didn't even mention them myself first off!

Tom · « **Reply #23 on:** October 22, 2012, 12:40:59 PM »

I expect forum sponsors to be pushed a little more, after all that's what they pay their money for.

But the main reason the small brands on here get pushed more is because they're seen as people, rather than a faceless brand. People like Matt @ H4L are probably regarded by many as friends/associates, and you're always going to recommend them over a faceless brand. You'll also be more forgiving and won't say as much negative.

Other brands such as Aldred or Blenheim who don't engage struggled, and aren't pushed to anywhere near the degree of those that do.

I like to see brands contribute, rather than just pay the �15 a month - and I think if more did that then it would work to the benefit of both the forum, the brand and the members.

thecord · « **Reply #24 on:** October 22, 2012, 12:44:11 PM »

Quote from: Manormanic on October 22, 2012, 12:37:18 PM

Apart from leo using one, I don't think I've heard more than the odd passing referene to them - indeed, I didn't even mention them myself first off!

I reviewed one a while back and I'm pretty sure that some of the long time members such as the Hosk and Peplow have too. Also agree strongly with Tom's points on sponsor contribution.

tim2000s · « **Reply #25 on:** October 22, 2012, 12:54:27 PM »

I think Simmy is more right than people recognise. I also think that people on here do talk about their new shiny toys, they just have more shiny toys from certain places.

I personally like Lavers, H4Ls, SAFs and bats that originate from Sussex.

Simmy · « **Reply #26 on:** October 22, 2012, 12:56:23 PM »

Quote from: Tom on October 22, 2012, 12:40:59 PM

I expect forum sponsors to be pushed a little more, after all that's what they pay their money for.

But the main reason the small brands on here get pushed more is because they're seen as people, rather than a faceless brand. People like Matt @ H4L are probably regarded by many as friends/associates, and you're always going to recommend them over a faceless brand. You'll also be more forgiving and won't say as much negative.

Other brands such as Aldred or Blenheim who don't engage struggled, and aren't pushed to anywhere near the degree of those that do.

I like to see brands contribute, rather than just pay the �15 a month - and I think if more did that then it would work to the benefit of both the forum, the brand and the members.

i think tom is right.. people that put more into the forum get more out of it!

and buying from a individual not a brand is a massive bonus

Karan62 · « **Reply #27 on:** October 22, 2012, 12:59:45 PM »

Millichamp and Hall get bandied about quite a lot as well

procricket · « **Reply #28 on:** October 22, 2012, 01:04:38 PM »

I will be honest I mention non sponsors kit more than sponsors because that what the sponsors are here to do and I like to share other experience with different brands

The forum at time can be very narrow minded and a look back over old topics is a interesting one where a non forum brand were heralded through the mud by certain members yet recently after a trade show they became the bell of the ball

To many on here make comments about brands they have not even touched and the forum from time to time needs a good shake up there more so much more than just this

Another classic was some forum sponsor was having a sale on yet the product was cheaper elsewhere on normal price yet people still thought it was a good idea to pay over the odds because they felt they new the bloke better

But the forum is quality there plenty of good stuff and some of the members in here are a pleasure to deal with

roco · « **Reply #29 on:** October 22, 2012, 01:09:55 PM »

A few reviews of b3 lately which are not a forum sponsor

I must agree with some that sponsors bats are pushed as that's what gets purchased most on here so there the most reviewed

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