Topic: "Picking the ball" (Read 5814 times)

uknsaunders · « **Reply #15 on:** October 24, 2012, 03:23:23 PM »

Quote from: GarrettJ on October 24, 2012, 03:14:12 PM

here is a tip .......

spend your winter nets keeping to spinners and medium pacers .... once you do that bowlers should be easier to pick

true

GarrettJ · « **Reply #16 on:** October 24, 2012, 03:29:54 PM »

you dont need to catch the ball just stand there and work out what they are doing and also think about this ..........

........... a keeper keeps for 50 overs a game facing every ball ...... thats 300 balls a game

some batsmen dont face that amount in a season and the concentration levels are improved too.

I keep wicket and i open the batting, I can pick most bowlers especially slower balls and cutters.

uknsaunders · « **Reply #17 on:** October 24, 2012, 03:49:27 PM »

Sometimes alot easier to watch the game. Handy to do a stint of umpiring at the start of a game. Work out what they are all doing and who bowls what. Been a very useful way of knowing what the bowler is doing before you go out to the crease. Alternatively, go old school and stand behind the keeper on the boundary for a few overs.

Buzz · « **Reply #18 on:** October 24, 2012, 06:05:00 PM »

the other thing to consider is when do you start looking at the ball... at the point of release, after its release, before its release at the start of the action or at the start of the run up...

and are you watching the ball or actually trying to watch the seam on the ball.

My view is that you need to watch the ball at least from the point the bowler get to the "coil" part of his action. where possible you should try to watch for the seam rather than just the ball.

As for picking bowlers - standing as a keeper or first slip you is a great way to learn the variations.

During the bowling warm ups, I like to stand behind the keeper as he takes the ball to get a feel for how the ball is moving in the air and to get my eyes adjusted to the game...

Manormanic · « **Reply #19 on:** October 25, 2012, 07:03:45 AM »

Quote from: Buzz on October 24, 2012, 06:05:00 PM

During the bowling warm ups, I like to stand behind the keeper as he takes the ball to get a feel for how the ball is moving in the air and to get my eyes adjusted to the game...

It is an interesting thought this - the majority of good slip fielders are batsmen, I think we can all agree on that; I doubt it is coincidence that watching the ball closely affects both arts, whereas bowling/out fielding is more reliant on grunt work!

RossViper · « **Reply #20 on:** October 25, 2012, 08:56:48 PM »

Just a note,
Especially against spin, you "pick" it based on the action, not what the ball is doing as it comes down the track. If your looking to seen what way its spinning as it comes down, your on a hiding to nothing!!!

I dont know what you're doing if your trying to pick swing!?!?

Johnny · « **Reply #21 on:** October 26, 2012, 06:26:18 AM »

Ross, that may be how you do it, and that's the way I play too, but if you listen to top players they do use other techniques. I believe 'picking' the swing is normally based on spotting which side the bowler is holding the shiny side of the ball.

GarrettJ · « **Reply #22 on:** October 26, 2012, 08:38:10 AM »

ask the none striker to give you a signal ........he cansee the bowler shine it then place it in his fingers and maybe spot it int he run up to

hold bat in right hand for inswing .... left hand for away swing .... both if not sure

Canners · « **Reply #23 on:** October 26, 2012, 08:48:43 AM »

I've heard players in the past day top batsman can see which side is the shiny side when the bowlers running up, My eye sight is spot on and I think it's a bit unrealistic, the only thing I can tell from 22+ yards is the colour of the ball

trypewriter · « **Reply #24 on:** October 26, 2012, 09:02:32 AM »

I'm with you guys who have suggested that keeping and maybe first slip too are a major benefit. On the very rare occasions when I've had to keep it has almost been like having a decent net prior to batting (obviously when batting second). Even at its most basic, and without picking swing, spin etc. it was hugely beneficial in 'getting' the pace and bounce of the track.

uknsaunders · « **Reply #25 on:** October 26, 2012, 09:07:40 AM »

You should be able to spot swing from a bowlers setup in the action. It's very difficult to not change wrist or action (at club level) and move it both ways. In fact it's pretty rare anybody can move it both ways in club cricket.

GarrettJ · « **Reply #26 on:** October 26, 2012, 10:58:10 AM »

also the width of the crease at release, wide and it will be coming into you, close to the stumps going away

Manormanic · « **Reply #27 on:** October 26, 2012, 11:01:18 AM »

Oddly, Mark Garaway wrote a very interesting piece on this on Pitchvision - if anyone wants a copy PM me your email address.

EaglesCC · « **Reply #28 on:** November 01, 2012, 02:09:30 PM »

I took up part time keeping and usually stand in the slips (when I�m not keeping) � purely so it would help when I�d batting. I admit it�s a great way of generally picking pace and bounce of the wicket but as said � all I can tell is the colour of the ball but no way can I pick which is the smooth or shiny side, or what revolutions are on the ball.

When batting I tend to keep my eye on the ball from the moment the bowler runs up but that�s purely to ensure I watch the ball � There is no way I can make out the position of the seam or rough smooth side.

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