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Re: India vs England Test Series
« Reply #120 on: November 19, 2012, 09:52:57 AM »

So - changes for the next test..

Personally I wish we had another spin option other than Monty - I tend to agree with the Duncan Fletcher school of thought that says everyone should offer more than just one thing to the team. Bringing in Monty weakens both the batting and the fielding. He has to take top order wickets and provide control to justify his place in the team.

I actually rate Monty I think he is an excellent game changing spin bowler
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Re: India vs England Test Series
« Reply #121 on: November 19, 2012, 10:03:19 AM »

for me we have to drop bresnan and broad. neither bowled with any pace and neither looked likely to get a wicket. I would bring in finn and monty. that extends the tail slightly but to be honest the way broad is batting at the moment i think finn and monty may hang around longer. Jimmy and finn to open and then rotate around the spinners. see if sewag and pujara like a bit more pace on the ball.

Batting wise i think the middle order has been terrible. the only ones who can hold their heads up are compton ( for the second innings- showed alot of skill and mental strength on debut) cook and prior. Bell needs a bat wrapped around his head for his first innings shot and trott and kp need to wake up. i really dont understand what kp was trying to do against ojha. his first innings he pushed the bat in circles rather than playing straight and got out to an average delivery which i could have kept out.

I agree with this, though bell will obviously be out two and I'm not really sure I fancy Bairstow or Morgan to come in and offer much.
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Re: India vs England Test Series
« Reply #122 on: November 19, 2012, 10:05:52 AM »

One thing I'd be tempted to do based on his perfromances here and last winter is to bat Prior at five for the next test!
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Re: India vs England Test Series
« Reply #123 on: November 19, 2012, 10:09:23 AM »


theres def a debate there about Prior's postion, really dont see them moving him from 7. think they like him counter-attacking from there
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Re: India vs England Test Series
« Reply #124 on: November 19, 2012, 10:13:04 AM »

on recent form etc, why not let him counter attack an over earlier?
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Re: India vs England Test Series
« Reply #125 on: November 19, 2012, 11:00:22 AM »

I think half of the England team are like little spoilt school kids.. If they don't play in favourable conditions or if things don't go there way then they give up.. Take there bat and ball and go home.

I was never a big fan of Michael Clarke but I will say that he goes out to win every game... He gives his team the chance to win if they are good enough and for that reason I think he will go down as a great captain... And not that it matters but he has changed my thoughts on him as a player.
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Re: India vs England Test Series
« Reply #126 on: November 19, 2012, 11:30:08 AM »

I think they have too many mediocre "allrounders" for the Indian conditions.

Samit just cant apply any pressure cos he bowls 1-2 poor balls an over.... appreciate he copped some bad decisions with the bat, but he really needed to contribute with the ball to warrant being picked. I'd replace him with Monty.

Bresnan.... Usually I find him a handy cricketer, dont know if he is not fit or what, but he was dismal...... I'd replace him with a batsman, be it Bairstow or Morgan.
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Re: India vs England Test Series
« Reply #127 on: November 19, 2012, 01:03:23 PM »

I actually rate Monty I think he is an excellent game changing spin bowler

He's certainly the best english spinner in the championship, but it was only 6 months or so ago that he was dropped in Sri Lanka. I hope you're right and he bags a shed load of wickets.

If he does play (and I'm assuming Bresnan would lose out as a result) I suspect Broad will retain his place in favour of Finn to bolster a weakened tail. I also think Patel will keep his place as they won't want to make too many changes and be accused of hitting the panic button - he did show good form with the bat in the warm ups and plays spin well. Incidentally I wonder what he thought of Dhoni's quip about the Indians having to take more than 20 wickets..
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Re: India vs England Test Series
« Reply #128 on: November 19, 2012, 09:11:11 PM »

My concern in dropping a seamer for Finn, and playing 2 spinners as we all predict, is if Finn pulls up in a 4 man attack, we're left with one seamer. Given Finns  was supposed to be out for longer and a thigh injury could lead to him missing the winter, is it worth the risk when whoever the seamers are will be largely ineffective? I cant see Flower dropping a batsman given the lack of runs made outside of Cook and Prior in the test. Plus Bell not being there, despite poor form, will make him even more cautious.
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Re: India vs England Test Series
« Reply #129 on: November 19, 2012, 09:38:27 PM »

I agree. plus panasar is not the answer.

my team would be...(but this won't be the team)

Cook, compton, KP(yes at 3) Morgan, trott, patel, prior then broad, swann, anderson and Finn.
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Re: India vs England Test Series
« Reply #130 on: November 19, 2012, 09:41:47 PM »

Morgan as high as 4???? and instead of Bairstow? yes your right,that wont be the team.
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Re: India vs England Test Series
« Reply #131 on: November 19, 2012, 09:42:47 PM »

Cook,Compton,kp,bairstow,trot,prior,Patel,swan,broad,Anderson,panasar

Big ask but use trott as 3rd seamer
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Re: India vs England Test Series
« Reply #132 on: November 19, 2012, 09:44:45 PM »

I agree. plus panasar is not the answer.

my team would be...(but this won't be the team)

Cook, compton, KP(yes at 3) Morgan, trott, patel, prior then broad, swann, anderson and Finn.

Nope - I think you've got to give Monts a bash - I'd go for -

Cook, Compton, Trott, KP, Morgan, Bairstow, Prior, Broad, Swann, Monty and Finn.


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Re: India vs England Test Series
« Reply #133 on: November 19, 2012, 09:45:07 PM »

all about a better balance of strokeplayers and blockers and splitting up the right handers.

tough on bairstow, but he will be back.

broad over Anderson fattus, bigggg call!
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Re: India vs England Test Series
« Reply #134 on: November 19, 2012, 09:46:42 PM »

I want only 3 seamers with one of them trott
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