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Re: India vs England Test Series
« Reply #360 on: December 13, 2012, 05:45:58 PM »

I'd rather see a sporting wicket yes, it devalues the game when balls are rolling along the ground on day 1. Premier League grounds would get fined in my area if they produced a wicket like that. Embarrassing, there is no skill in bowling someone with a pea roller.

Pace and Bounce offers a far better spectacle and you cannot say that India can't produce pitches of that standard, look at the srilankan pitches recently very lively and a far better sporting spectacle.
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Re: India vs England Test Series
« Reply #361 on: December 13, 2012, 05:49:16 PM »

Not entirely true - it asks different questions of both batsmen and bowlers.  Would you really rather have seen yet another Chief Executives Wicket?


You could argue it is a chief executives wicket.
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« Reply #362 on: December 13, 2012, 06:19:13 PM »

Not entirely true - it asks different questions of both batsmen and bowlers.  Would you really rather have seen yet another Chief Executives Wicket?

Not many questions and it makes the game one dimensional. Batsman can only go forward and drive, bowlers can't bounce anyone. Played on a few tracks like this, as we all have, and removing 50% of your shots is no fun for anyone.
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Re: India vs England Test Series
« Reply #363 on: December 13, 2012, 09:09:15 PM »

You could argue it is a chief executives wicket.

got to be kidding - there is more chance of Scarlett Johannson kncking on my front door in her smalls than there is of this game going to the fifth afternoon!
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Re: India vs England Test Series
« Reply #364 on: December 13, 2012, 09:10:57 PM »

Not many questions and it makes the game one dimensional. Batsman can only go forward and drive, bowlers can't bounce anyone. Played on a few tracks like this, as we all have, and removing 50% of your shots is no fun for anyone.

Sorry Nick, I just don't agree - we see so many timid pitches on which batsmen with limited technique can score big by hitting through the vague line of the ball - so many in fact that batsmen start blaming the pitch as soon as they have to move their bloody feet.  Yes, this will be alow scoring game, but it will be a great test of ingenuity and resilience. 
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Re: India vs England Test Series
« Reply #365 on: December 13, 2012, 09:16:26 PM »

got to be kidding - there is more chance of Scarlett Johannson kncking on my front door in her smalls than there is of this game going to the fifth afternoon!

In a sense that the on the field chief executive's (Dhoni and the BCCI) have created such a turgid wicket in order to try and nullify England's batsmen and bowlers. This pitch has brought the average bowlers back into the game for India.
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Re: India vs England Test Series
« Reply #366 on: December 13, 2012, 09:18:46 PM »

In a sense that the on the field chief executive's (Dhoni and the BCCI) have created such a turgid wicket in order to try and nullify England's batsmen and bowlers. This pitch has brought the average bowlers back into the game for India.

different way of looking at it I suppose - if India had won the toss you would probably have had a point (and if India had pickd an extra seamer as well - it seemed pretty clear to me that they misread the conditions completely!)
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Re: India vs England Test Series
« Reply #367 on: December 13, 2012, 09:21:26 PM »

different way of looking at it I suppose - if India had won the toss you would probably have had a point (and if India had pickd an extra seamer as well - it seemed pretty clear to me that they misread the conditions completely!)

Agree as Pieterson said our two seamers should be a handful and trott should get through a few overs!
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Re: India vs England Test Series
« Reply #368 on: December 13, 2012, 09:24:11 PM »

God! Ian Bell is just awful! I've just seen the shot he played today. What a disgrace! Has he got a brain in his head? I have honestly never rated him and if this doesn't spell the end of his test career, especially with the likes of Root, Bairstow and Morgan amongst others in the wings then I just give up!

I believe his test match average for the last year is now below 15 (correct me if I'm wrong!) What's the betting he creeps into the starting line up in NZ? Has he got naked pictures of Andy Flower or something?

Dreadfully overrated player. 

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Re: India vs England Test Series
« Reply #369 on: December 13, 2012, 09:25:06 PM »

but plays for Warwickshire...
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Re: India vs England Test Series
« Reply #370 on: December 13, 2012, 09:25:38 PM »

but plays for Warwickshire...

He's a shoe in for the T20 and odi side then..... ;)
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Re: India vs England Test Series
« Reply #371 on: December 13, 2012, 09:25:56 PM »

Yet his 2011 average was 3 figures
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Re: India vs England Test Series
« Reply #372 on: December 13, 2012, 09:26:51 PM »

He also averaged something like 119 a year ago. He is just going through a bad patch. Who doesnt?
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Re: India vs England Test Series
« Reply #373 on: December 13, 2012, 09:29:02 PM »

God! Ian Bell is just awful! I've just seen the shot he played today. What a disgrace! Has he got a brain in his head? I have honestly never rated him and if this doesn't spell the end of his test career, especially with the likes of Root, Bairstow and Morgan amongst others in the wings then I just give up!

I believe his test match average for the last year is now below 15 (correct me if I'm wrong!) What's the betting he creeps into the starting line up in NZ? Has he got naked pictures of Andy Flower or something?

Dreadfully overrated player.

He looks like he hasn't got a clue against some of the spinners. Completely agree with you he hasn't looked right for a long long time now
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Re: India vs England Test Series
« Reply #374 on: December 13, 2012, 09:29:11 PM »

Bell will come good yet again his test career is littered with good and bad patches

He has had more chances than most for sure
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