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Re: Visiting Salix
« Reply #60 on: December 05, 2012, 05:57:06 PM »

all except the praestantia...

You should get Andrew to make you one with a flat face, seeing as it's your favourite bat Paul! :D Then you can tell us about the performance differences. 8)
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Re: Visiting Salix
« Reply #61 on: December 05, 2012, 06:17:34 PM »

My thoughts on the benefits of having a flat face are:

1. Wherever you hit the ball on the face the ball will travel in the same direction. Aiding placement of shots on off centre impacts.

2. Allows even pressure across the blade when pressing the cleft. As a round roller will apply greater pressure to the edges of the cleft, where the cleft is compacted more. Meaning more pressure could be applied to a flat face when pressing (not sure of the benefit.)

3. Makes the edges larger which helps sell bats I guess.

But that's just my thoughts. May be completely off the mark.
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Re: Visiting Salix
« Reply #62 on: December 05, 2012, 06:45:07 PM »

My thoughts on the benefits of having a flat face are:

1. Wherever you hit the ball on the face the ball will travel in the same direction. Aiding placement of shots on off centre impacts.

2. Allows even pressure across the blade when pressing the cleft. As a round roller will apply greater pressure to the edges of the cleft, where the cleft is compacted more. Meaning more pressure could be applied to a flat face when pressing (not sure of the benefit.)

3. Makes the edges larger which helps sell bats I guess.

But that's just my thoughts. May be completely off the mark.
On point one, if you are good enough to ensure correct alignment on off centre shots i suspect you are good enough to middle it more often than not.

On point two, would you not want the edges pressed harder to reduce the risk of damage?

On point three, well, yes, bigger edges do sell more bats...
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Re: Visiting Salix
« Reply #63 on: December 05, 2012, 06:50:06 PM »

The flat face came about with one thing in mind, and that was to make edges appear bigger.
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Re: Visiting Salix
« Reply #64 on: December 05, 2012, 07:16:37 PM »

The flat face came about with one thing in mind, and that was to make edges appear bigger.
As Bradbury have said!
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Re: Visiting Salix
« Reply #65 on: December 05, 2012, 07:18:42 PM »

I like flat faces

I remember kransbuhler saying sme much different ref flat faces

He likes them and thinks the add something.

I agree with him and I see a lot of professional now use flat faces

« Last Edit: December 05, 2012, 07:20:16 PM by procricket »
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Re: Visiting Salix
« Reply #66 on: December 06, 2012, 06:15:53 PM »

More on this flatter vs rounder face debate:


What do people think? I know the flatter faced one has an anti-scuff sheet, which will of course help a bit, but I think it's still surprising to think that they would make that much difference to its durability, especially considering that the flatter faced one has seen three times as much cricket!

This one is much shorter and left more open because we were running out of film at the time!

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Re: Visiting Salix
« Reply #67 on: December 06, 2012, 07:20:48 PM »

You should get Andrew to make you one with a flat face, seeing as it's your favourite bat Paul! :D Then you can tell us about the performance differences. 8)

I might have to at this rate, Chad! Trouble is, the flatter faced Salix bats all have a mid-high sweet spot, and I like mine low/low-mid.  Also, I don't think my batting is good enough to justify an AK custom made!  :(

Genuinely curious to try the flatter faces soon though - fascinated to see if they perform as well as I think they will!

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Re: Visiting Salix
« Reply #68 on: December 06, 2012, 07:35:21 PM »

Here is a good test get 2 bats in same specs but one with flat face and other with rounded face. Then set the bowling machine and bowl same delivery over and over again and batsman must hit a shot through 2 cones, lets say a cover drive, first using a round face bat and then using a flat face bat... as more and more time is spent bring those cones closer reducing the gap and see which bat gives you more accuracy!!
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Re: Visiting Salix
« Reply #69 on: January 15, 2013, 10:45:08 PM »

Paul - Do you have a delivery date for your Salix Bats yet?
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Re: Visiting Salix
« Reply #70 on: January 16, 2013, 07:04:56 AM »

Paul - Do you have a delivery date for your Salix Bats yet?

February, James. Probably in the 1st or 2nd week, but no exact date yet...

Back to the flat faced debate, another benefit I neglected to mention before is that you get more flex in the handle with the flatter faced bats. You certainly did in the bats I tested at Salix anyway...

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Re: Visiting Salix
« Reply #71 on: January 16, 2013, 08:04:31 AM »

February, James. Probably in the 1st or 2nd week, but no exact date yet...

Back to the flat faced debate, another benefit I neglected to mention before is that you get more flex in the handle with the flatter faced bats. You certainly did in the bats I tested at Salix anyway...
That has to be to do with the handle. If anything, a flatter face increases the surface area to glue the handle to the blade, so you'd expect a stiffer connection.
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Re: Visiting Salix
« Reply #72 on: January 16, 2013, 09:21:42 AM »

February, James. Probably in the 1st or 2nd week, but no exact date yet...

Back to the flat faced debate, another benefit I neglected to mention before is that you get more flex in the handle with the flatter faced bats. You certainly did in the bats I tested at Salix anyway...

I can testify to this, I have bought a Salix Wasp from Asad and had to check the handle as its quite whippy and was different at first, however the bat performs really good and seems very promising at such an early stage. Strangely I seem to be hitting the ball harder this year and its the first time I've used a flat faced bat before...
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Re: Visiting Salix
« Reply #73 on: January 16, 2013, 10:47:44 AM »

February, James. Probably in the 1st or 2nd week, but no exact date yet...

Back to the flat faced debate, another benefit I neglected to mention before is that you get more flex in the handle with the flatter faced bats. You certainly did in the bats I tested at Salix anyway...

Nice one, look forward to seeing them.
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Re: Visiting Salix
« Reply #74 on: February 07, 2013, 01:32:59 PM »

Mr Paul any further update on when the Salix delivery is expected?  I'm off work wednesday and would love to have a look around if your Salix gear is on display then.
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