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[ajmw89]

In general wider grains clefts are lighter then close grains clefts

Is that to do with the change in density caused by fast growth?

[Fezballoh]

I'd have a punt at it being because the grains get pushed closer together as more grains/rings are added over the years. The timber between each grain is compressed making for denser willow. This really spoils things for people looking for a cleft with 20 twenty straight grains that looks like it weighs 4lbs but only weighs 2'10"!

Funny, the more I read about all the timber tech associated with this, the more I'm convinced it has more to do with how good the batter is at batting than anything else. I'd heard that Albert Trott story before (they bang on about him on TMS a lot as he was the current Trotts great great grand father or something) and it supports this theory somewhat!

[Simmy]

i got a few oversized 1's from matt at H4L

a g1 cleft is aroung 90 posted i think it was

for the oversized one it was 100 but this was about a year ago.

only difference is the size of the cleft thats it ...

its just cut much bigger to make a bigger bat.

in my case it was made into a distinction style bat as we wanted a massive spine and small edges. johnny now has it wish i would of kept it.

[Johnny]

I could be persuaded to part with it for the right price Simmy

[fatbats]

Our new mayhem bats are made from oversized clefts and its as simmy says same clefts just cut bigger so have more play with the profile

[Simmy]

I could be persuaded to part with it for the right price Simmy

more than what i could get one made for i assume!

[tim2000s]

Funny, the more I read about all the timber tech associated with this, the more I'm convinced it has more to do with how good the batter is at batting than anything else. I'd heard that Albert Trott story before (they bang on about him on TMS a lot as he was the current Trotts great great grand father or something) and it supports this theory somewhat!

You're a rarity - you've been on the forum a week and you've reached the conclusion that many still don't believe...

[norbs]

Hi

Take a look at this

http://www.whichcricketbat.com/cricket-bat/cricket-bat-voodoo-willow-and-performance

and then this

http://www.whichcricketbat.com/cricket-bat/cricket-bats-is-it-important-to-understand-the-willow

[farnham_quins_2]

The Blank Bat I just bought is from an oversized cleft and is the distinction profile. Has a massive spine, I love the shape of it! Cant tell you about performance yet as its being knocked in