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[uknsaunders]

I know we don't have DRS in club cricket, but do you feel umpires in particular are learning from it? I played a few cup games last season and it helped my left arm spin to have some trigger happy umpires. Anything hitting the front pad remotely near the stumps seemed to be dicing with death for the poor batsman.

Having been done once or twice while batting I've had to play more in line with the spinning delivery. I use to play slightly inside or outside the delivery, ie. play for the spin and get a big stride in. Nowadays it seems fraught with danger trying to do this. Anybody have similar issues?

[Manormanic]

I don't know if they are issues directly related to DRS but you don't hear the words "a long way forward" any more, which was the standard excuse for a lot of years...

[PedalsMcgrew]

Funny, I hadn't really thought about it until this post but as a left arm spinner myself I have definitely got a higher number of LBW's in the past couple of seasons than I used to get. Whether it's because I'm just bowling better (spinners get better with age, like wine!) or because umpires are more willing to give decisions I couldn't say but I definitely get more LBW's than I used to.

[Chad]

It hasn't affected me, but I see what you're getting at, as we are influenced by what we watch, so the umpires will probably be less hesitant now to give someone out to a left arm offy. (I think the last time I was given out LBW was last season when a spinner pitched a disgusting half tracker, which i went on the back foot to smash over cow only for it to hit me on the toe, so I don't speak from experience...) Mind you, at the level I am playing cricket at currently, the spinners tend to be pretty slow, so you tend to have a little more time to play the ball, so less chance of LBW. We have given an awful load of LBW decisions this past season though, some which were not out. I think perhaps the DRS has caused this trigger happiness! I think it has affected both spinners and pace bowlers, although primarily spin.

[uknsaunders]

agree, the "big stride" seems to have gone as a piece of advice. I sense now batsman aren't as keen to prop forward and play around the front pad. 15 years ago I would of had to turn it square to beat the forward lunge. Problem in club cricket is batsman don't have the footwork of test players and changing technique isn't easy.

[tim2000s]

I don't know if they are issues directly related to DRS but you don't hear the words "a long way forward" any more, which was the standard excuse for a lot of years...

I'd suggest that DRS on the international scene has changed the way umpires perceive doubt. You used to be able to get a big stride in and an umpuire would doubt whether it would hit the stumps. That's no longer the case.  What I've noticed as someone who moves the ball off the seam as there is less doubt on LBW with those now. You get far fewer "Going down leg" decisions. Just adds a little pressure to the batsman, that's all!!!

[uknsaunders]

I've bowled a bit of left arm spin in the past and my aims/style has changed over the years. When I was young it was about flight and turn defeating the batsman. Since I was rubbish at both of those I kept bowling medium pace lol. However, in my second coming as a spinner I've found bowling straight and flat far more rewarding from a wickets perspective, than trying to be a classical spinner. I still try to turn the ball and give it some air but darting into the pads every now and again seems pretty effective right now.

[Simmy]

sod drs i wouldn't mind seeing some 3rd upmire replays of some of my stumpings that given/not given

[Manormanic]

I'd suggest that DRS on the international scene has changed the way umpires perceive doubt. You used to be able to get a big stride in and an umpuire would doubt whether it would hit the stumps. That's no longer the case.  What I've noticed as someone who moves the ball off the seam as there is less doubt on LBW with those now. You get far fewer "Going down leg" decisions. Just adds a little pressure to the batsman, that's all!!!

Its tricky, because I think international cricketers tend to start from the crease whereas clubbies often bat out - I sometimes go two feet out, and the find it rather annoying to lunge all 6 foot 3 forward to get hit on the knee roll and still be given...

[uknsaunders]

Its tricky, because I think international cricketers tend to start from the crease whereas clubbies often bat out - I sometimes go two feet out, and the find it rather annoying to lunge all 6 foot 3 forward to get hit on the knee roll and still be given...

I don't think club level umpires really care. I've been 4 or 5 feet out of my crease and neither umpire takes any notice even when I make it obvious.

[Buzz]

in my cricket, the lbws haven't really changed. If you play a sweep and the ball hits your pads, you are given. Regardless.

I usually play on a fairly true pitch and don't feel that umpires have got more aggressive with giving batsmen out.

There aren't that many spinners around, however.   

[Manormanic]

I don't think club level umpires really care. I've been 4 or 5 feet out of my crease and neither umpire takes any notice even when I make it obvious.

old pro's trik - if you're batting out, after taking guard, lock eyes with the umpire and tell him just that! 

[uknsaunders]

in my cricket, the lbws haven't really changed. If you play a sweep and the ball hits your pads, you are given. Regardless. 

pretty much a timeless given. Play a sweep and it hits your pad you might as well start walking lol

[Manormanic]

pretty much a timeless given. Play a sweep and it hits your pad you might as well start walking lol

in fairness, the way most middle aged clubbies play the sweep, it usually IS out...