Topic: Hammer Bats... (Read 13350 times)

wilkie113 · « **Reply #15 on:** December 18, 2012, 04:53:27 PM »

Quote from: RightArmRapid on December 18, 2012, 04:50:26 PM

It seemed to be fair game when it was MSR before he came on
Of course it would only be fair for people to refrain from commenting on the bats before using them but it would also only be fair to apply these standards across the board!

The difference was, MSR can tell you the exact process in which there bats were made lol.

Agree with that entirely.

ItsJustCricket · « **Reply #16 on:** December 18, 2012, 04:54:37 PM »

Quote from: johners77 on December 18, 2012, 04:49:46 PM

its the same with any brand who stickers bats that are made by a current brand/bat maker. doesnt matter if its tk, laver or indian made bats. for those that cant tell a TK from a laver without pretty stickers on, it makes no difference to them. they see a nice bat with nice stickers and if they have the funds they buy it. for us bat nerds and those who do know the difference, we do feel that certain brands take the mick with their pricing which in some occasions is more than the equivalent product from the makers themselves. at the end of the day its business. if people are willing to pay stupid amounts for a bat then why not cash in on that. is it right to do so? thats a personal opinion.

That's a very good point, John, but you do understand that threads like this hurt the reputation of IJC and CSO, as well as Hammer and all the bat makers involved (whomever they may be). Hence my use of the word slander.

Why do a few gossip-mongers on here want to harm some very honest, hard working people for no good reason??

ItsJustCricket · « **Reply #17 on:** December 18, 2012, 04:55:39 PM »

Quote from: wilkie113 on December 18, 2012, 04:52:37 PM

So of you haven't used a hammer bat, but used a TK made bat or a laver you can comment?
Because essentially that's what they are lol.

Nobody is doubting there good bats at all. I haven't once said why buy a hammer it's a plank.

But I don't see why people in the know would ever buy a hammer, when you can get exactly the same bat off various places/forum sponsors for the same if not a better price.

I'm sure hammer bats play in exactly the same way all tks and lavers play.

What makes you so sure that they're pressed in exactly the same way, Tom?

Ryan · « **Reply #18 on:** December 18, 2012, 04:56:38 PM »

Quote from: wilkie113 on December 18, 2012, 04:52:37 PM

So of you haven't used a hammer bat, but used a TK made bat or a laver you can comment?
Because essentially that's what they are lol.

Nobody is doubting there good bats at all. I haven't once said why buy a hammer it's a plank.

But I don't see why people in the know would ever buy a hammer, when you can get exactly the same bat off various places/forum sponsors for the same if not a better price.

I'm sure hammer bats play in exactly the same way all tks and lavers play.

I'd have to agree...

smokem · « **Reply #19 on:** December 18, 2012, 04:56:52 PM »

Interesting character Jason... Just the other day, he was openly questioning the way Julian Millichamp grades his bats and implying he's ripping people off by grading on performance and not looks. And I don't think he's actually used a SCAT himself either. He then suggested he may do a little experiment by regrading his Dynadrives and adding "LE" stickers to those he thinks are lookers and jack their prices up. Not sure that screams honesty to me... That Facebook episode lost any ounce of respect I had left for the guy.

procricket · « **Reply #20 on:** December 18, 2012, 04:57:59 PM »

Leave him to allegedly sell fake Spartans

He soon shuts up

But still try to flog them

Try that for slander

trypewriter · « **Reply #21 on:** December 18, 2012, 04:59:16 PM »

Actually if it is written, and published, which this is, it is libel your honour. One of the points with that is, that it is not only the person who posts it, but also the person responsible for publishing it (this site) that can be pursued.

wilkie113 · « **Reply #22 on:** December 18, 2012, 04:59:34 PM »

Quote from: ItsJustCricket on December 18, 2012, 04:55:39 PM

What makes you so sure that they're pressed in exactly the same way, Tom?

Unless I'm missing something, Jason was commenting on the other forum
Asking how many time he should get his bats pressed as he didn't know?
Unless he's got information from others or experimented a lot with the bat makers pressing the bats different times then I'd say there pressed the same.

Plus dont all bat makers press a cleft on there judgement? Different clefts are pressed differently according to the cleft?

ItsJustCricket · « **Reply #23 on:** December 18, 2012, 05:00:48 PM »

Quote from: y07richardsonj on December 18, 2012, 04:58:12 PM

Just a quick question Paul. What, in your opinion, makes a grade 2 hammer bat in harrow better than a grade 1+ gm original l.e. (also in harrow) that warrants a �40+ price difference along with a grade difference?

Unlike GM, Hammer don't mass produce harrow bats, for one, and although it's a grade 2, if you came to the shop to see it, you'd realise it actually looks like a grade 1... Plus it's one of the largest, and best sounding (off the mallet) harrow bats that I have ever seen in my life!

Canners · « **Reply #24 on:** December 18, 2012, 05:03:13 PM »

Quote from: ItsJustCricket on December 18, 2012, 04:55:39 PM

What makes you so sure that they're pressed in exactly the same way, Tom?

why would the bats be pressed differently what would be the advantage of that?

surely both his bat makers press their own bats to the best of their abilities, i cant imagine they would decide to press a bat for an outsourced brand any better than his own bat brand......

Aswani Cricket · « **Reply #25 on:** December 18, 2012, 05:06:09 PM »

Quote from: Canners on December 18, 2012, 05:03:13 PM

why would the bats be pressed differently what would be the advantage of that?

surely both his bat makers press their own bats to the best of their abilities, i cant imagine they would decide to press a bat for an outsourced brand any better than his own bat brand......

They would if you asked them to!

procricket · « **Reply #26 on:** December 18, 2012, 05:14:33 PM »

I know I,am normally the one kicking off

Lets all chill out it a bit of wood used to hit a ball

Slander and all lets calm down.

Facts

Yes we know who makes them yes there expensive

That about it

If you don't want one is there any point

Bruce · « **Reply #27 on:** December 18, 2012, 05:15:53 PM »

Quote from: procricket on December 18, 2012, 04:36:16 PM

If I was a batmakers and I outsourced to other brands would I give my best bats to the other brands that's the question people should ask

I don't disagree with you in the slightest on this matter Dave, But everyone loves a bit of contract work!
Say for instant you were having a quiet period or quarter, and some bloke said:

''Hey! Mr Batmaker, I like your work, I'm launching a new brand and trying source the best bats I can.
As you know I have a very successful Youtube channel with lots of subscribers, If I tell these subscribers that these new hammer are the bees knees better than most on the market etc.
I'm hoping to shift a load of them, so I'll be back buying from you once I need some more.

I'm looking at buying say 50 bats at a time''

You wouldn't turn this down, would you?

Canners · « **Reply #28 on:** December 18, 2012, 05:16:32 PM »

Quote from: aswanicricket on December 18, 2012, 05:06:09 PM

They would if you asked them to!

they will do anything you ask them to, but my question is....

why would they want to press a bat better for an outside company?

procricket · « **Reply #29 on:** December 18, 2012, 05:19:24 PM »

Quote from: Bruce on December 18, 2012, 05:15:53 PM

I don't disagree with you in the slightest on this matter Dave, But everyone loves a bit of contract work!
Say for instant you were having a quiet period or quarter, and some bloke said:

''Hey! Mr Batmaker, I like your work, I'm launching a new brand and trying source the best bats I can.
As you know I have a very successful Youtube channel with lots of subscribers, If I tell these subscribers that these new hammer are the bees knees better than most on the market etc.
I'm hoping to shift a load of them, so I'll be back buying from you once I need some more.

I'm looking at buying say 50 bats at a time''

You wouldn't turn this down, would you?

Would you hell I see from a mate how competitive the industry is I take my hat off to them all
Nobody I think makes a bat bad or poor softs on purpose they are all voting for our money.

It takes guts to start or keep a brand going I will not slate any of them off not even hammer

Good luck to all brands I say and shops

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