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Stance to help NOT be LBW candidate
« on: January 05, 2013, 06:31:51 PM »

Right guys, I am hoping a few of you may be able to help me??

With winter nets starting on Friday I really want to try anyways to stop LBWs. I have never really been an LBW candidate before but over the last 2 seasons it seems to be becoming more of an issue. I bat on leg stump and always have. I have a very small trigger movement back and across.

I have tried standing a bit further to leg but seem to still find myself in front after a while. I started standing quite face on towards the end of last season. Bu this is mean as a RH batsman I would really open up my front (left) foot. I did this to try and make sure I wasn't trying to play round my front pad.

I am 30 years old and played cricket for 20 years but it almost feels that at times I have never batted as I feel really alien when in my stance. The club does not have a proper coach at present so I am seeing if any if the coaches or anybody really may be able to help me underStand what is going wrong. I know this may be hard as you can not see what I mean and it may just be a phase. But I play a decent level still and am worried as I need to iron this fault out before it becomes a permanent fixture in my game.

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Re: Stance to help NOT be LBW candidate
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2013, 06:37:26 PM »

Get rid of the trigger movement and try and stay leg side of the ball. I've had issues with that as well mate and standing wider outside leg wasn't the solution as the trigger movement still brings you in front of all three.
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Re: Stance to help NOT be LBW candidate
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2013, 06:38:17 PM »

Clearing your front leg and trying to slap the ball helps get rid of LBW, but increases the bowled column :(
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Re: Stance to help NOT be LBW candidate
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2013, 06:40:57 PM »

I had issues with LBW towards the end of last season. I've been working on the bowling machine on my front foot movement.

After each shot, I turn and look to see where my front foot is in relation to the stumps. A lot of the time during my troubles it had crept all the way over to off stump and even beyond, making anything straight quite difficult to play around my pad as well as making me an easy LBW victim.

This autumn/winter I've been trying to ensure my front foot never gets any further across than middle, and in most cases, leg. My bat then comes down alongside my pad, and the bat is in line with the stumps instead of the pad.

I lose some effectiveness when driving wider deliveries and I can leave a gap between bat and pad sometimes when 'chasing' the wider ones outside off, but as the drive is IMO the best part of my game, I'm backing myself to be able to put these away.

In addition I've opened my stance out a little, and I've experimented with pointing my toes on my front foot towards the non strikers end as part of my stance, before the bowler starts to deliver the ball.

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Re: Stance to help NOT be LBW candidate
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2013, 06:50:23 PM »

Another useful thing for me to be able to help you is to see some video of you batting.

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Re: Stance to help NOT be LBW candidate
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2013, 06:50:53 PM »

I had a problem with lbw also, i wasgetting out a lot to it. Easy change to leg stump and I didnt get out lbw again all year!
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Re: Stance to help NOT be LBW candidate
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2013, 06:58:41 PM »

right, being pinned lbw is usually due to your head getting to the offside of the ball, also possible with too much movement.
I would always encourage a side on stance (and no trigger).

try when you net working hard to keep your head in line and practice playing in the v, especially to straight and slightly leg side balls. Avoid the whip to the leg side.
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Re: Stance to help NOT be LBW candidate
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2013, 07:03:32 PM »

Another useful thing for me to be able to help you is to see some video of you batting.

I am quite interested in visiting you for some 1:1 coaching its just I live down in Kent so a long way to travel. I am so not good with computers etc i can get a full size pic to upload to this forum let alone take and upload a video lol.
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Re: Stance to help NOT be LBW candidate
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2013, 07:07:37 PM »

I am an opening bat so expect to get out LBW a few times but I was out 52% of the time last year.

I know in my head I am worried about being bowled. At the end of the day if the balls crashes into my stumps I am walking back. If its an LBW shout I may survive. I can't even really blame the umpires as most are pretty good or league appointed some times.

I have always had the trigger movement but it is minimal.
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Re: Stance to help NOT be LBW candidate
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2013, 07:13:43 PM »

In 2011 when I moved to the first team the first 5 games I played in I was out LBW. What I found I was doing was planting my front foot and then getting hit. To fix it all I simply did was learn to move a little later and then suddenly, no more LBW's. I don't know if that's what your doing but it's worth thinking about, it might have nothing to do with getting to far across but more to do with you moving the front leg to quickly so essentially getting in line with the ball rather than just inside the line of it etc.

Hopefully that makes sense, hard to describe without videos.
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Re: Stance to help NOT be LBW candidate
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2013, 07:39:32 PM »

it might have nothing to do with getting to far across but more to do with you moving the front leg to quickly so essentially getting in line with the ball rather than just inside the line of it etc.

Hopefully that makes sense, hard to describe without videos.

Do you know what I had not thought of that point of view. I never thought moving to early may be a cause of the problem. I will work on trying to get just inside the ball. I play very straight so there could be a bit to what you say procricket.

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Re: Stance to help NOT be LBW candidate
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2013, 07:40:13 PM »

right, being pinned lbw is usually due to your head getting to the offside of the ball, also possible with too much movement.
I would always encourage a side on stance (and no trigger).

try when you net working hard to keep your head in line and practice playing in the v, especially to straight and slightly leg side balls. Avoid the whip to the leg side.

This.

As Buzz said, it's got less to do with stance and more to do with head because you are playing around the ball...... It's an easy habit to adopt to step out towards off and end up inside the line of the ball, once you are leaning over or falling away to play back around yourself, your

Get into whatever stance is comfortable and familiar to you and practice playing straight with your head and elbow in line with the ball.
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Re: Stance to help NOT be LBW candidate
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2013, 07:48:25 PM »

These guys know more about it than I do, I just know what worked to fix my particular problem. I did get given out last year LBW to a left arm bowler. Bit annoying as it pitched well outside leg stump AND my front foot was outside leg stump too.. Still, league umpires are known for triggering people :)  I was going well on 40 off 42 balls too :(
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Re: Stance to help NOT be LBW candidate
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2013, 07:49:10 PM »



Get into whatever stance is comfortable and familiar to you and practice playing straight with your head and elbow in line with the ball.

I will spend some time playing shadow shots in front of the mirror again. I will also spend some time trying to get rid the trigger movement if possible as a few people have said its better without one.
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Re: Stance to help NOT be LBW candidate
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2013, 07:51:21 PM »

I know how you feel mate I was given out LBW twice in the 90's last season. One may have been a bt suspect but the 2nd was most defiantly plumb. Don't sweep the 1st ball of a bowlers spell
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