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Re: Stance to help NOT be LBW candidate
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2013, 07:52:53 PM »

Can arrange a special deal for say a 2 hour session with you if you are travelling a long distance mate?

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Re: Stance to help NOT be LBW candidate
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2013, 07:56:46 PM »

Can arrange a special deal for say a 2 hour session with you if you are travelling a long distance mate?

I may take you up on that offer mate as its about 2 hours to your place from me so when the kids are back after this very very long ( or feels like it has been) Christmas holiday at school I should be able to get a man day to myself and come visit you.
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Re: Stance to help NOT be LBW candidate
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2013, 08:04:06 PM »

Send me a pm whenever you want to get something arranged :)

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Re: Stance to help NOT be LBW candidate
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2013, 08:09:56 PM »

Will do Jake, thanks mate
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Re: Stance to help NOT be LBW candidate
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2013, 08:24:05 PM »

Revert back to your old stance on leg and play straighter. Don't whip off your legs. You'll find it easier once you show the full face of the bat to a ball.

I.e. play more through mid wicket rather than square/ backward square.

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Re: Stance to help NOT be LBW candidate
« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2013, 08:46:14 PM »

Revert back to your old stance on leg and play straighter. Don't whip off your legs. You'll find it easier once you show the full face of the bat to a ball.

I.e. play more through mid wicket rather than square/ backward square.

I don't really whip of my legs, its not that I am playing bad shots most of the time. I am quite a technical player and score pretty well all round the ground I am more of an accumulator really so it's not like I am playing big shots looking for massive sixes etc. I just seem to almost loose track of where I am and find myself in front at times.

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Re: Stance to help NOT be LBW candidate
« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2013, 08:57:01 PM »

Think. You need to find the cause. Of the problem not the result?

I know personally if I'm. Not upright I have tendency to fall over meaning pads in front playing around pads.

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Re: Stance to help NOT be LBW candidate
« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2013, 09:54:50 PM »

It sounds to me like your weight is not coming forward enough and you are hanging back, or, that your head is coming down on the off side of the ball, (this would lead to a lot of half-strides and being hit on the pad, inside edges, and a lot of shots square of mid-wicket)

I would not suggest changing the trigger. I only know a few batsmen (inc. myself) who do not use a trigger. just make sure that your weight is coming forwards on the line of the ball. I would suggest starting with spin. I.e. forward press, and then look to play through mid-off (drill) and likewise, with seam look to play through mid on (straight bat) in order to do this, your weight must be spot on.
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Re: Stance to help NOT be LBW candidate
« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2013, 10:50:17 PM »

Mate, if you're getting to the 90's twice then you're obviously doing something right lol. If you're averaging 35+ and getting out lbw 52% of the time thats a problem I want! Definitely a head issue for me, is it from inswing or outswing?

P.S. I've come around to the Buzz school of thinking and don't agree wholly with trigger movements, too difficult to implement well!
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Re: Stance to help NOT be LBW candidate
« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2013, 11:46:01 PM »

take a middle and leg guard
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Re: Stance to help NOT be LBW candidate
« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2013, 12:06:42 AM »

Do you know what I had not thought of that point of view. I never thought moving to early may be a cause of the problem. I will work on trying to get just inside the ball. I play very straight so there could be a bit to what you say procricket.

Thanks

Agree. If your head is going to far to off then your balance is all shot. Means you miss straight ones that you will usually clip through leg or even just defend. Channel 9 (in Oz) did a piece on Cowan as his head kept going too far to the off side. Kept getting bowled although I think it falls in line with LBW.

One drill I work with my players is to play their shot as per normal in the net and then ask them to stay in the shot. Then ask them where they think their head is in relation to their off stump (or middle) without them looking where their stumps are. Sometimes they were far outside off stump or on leg etc. Also helps with leaving and knowing where your off stump is. Good luck.
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Re: Stance to help NOT be LBW candidate
« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2013, 12:09:45 AM »

take a middle and leg guard

That was a plan i was gonna try
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Re: Stance to help NOT be LBW candidate
« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2013, 12:13:31 AM »

Mate, if you're getting to the 90's twice then you're obviously doing something right lol. If you're averaging 35+ and getting out lbw 52% of the time thats a problem I want! Definitely a head issue for me, is it from inswing or outswing?

P.S. I've come around to the Buzz school of thinking and don't agree wholly with trigger movements, too difficult to implement well!

Bloody annoying though getting out LBW when you have done the hardwork lol. Normally inswing. I have been thinking about this and checked it on the club website only out once to spinners LBW normally early on in the innings or what appears to be really annoying is the amount of time i have been out to the 3-4 change bowlers which tend to be the tight containing hit the length type.

Like the one about seeing where my head is in relation to the off stump.
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Re: Stance to help NOT be LBW candidate
« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2013, 08:00:28 AM »

Bloody annoying though getting out LBW when you have done the hardwork lol. Normally inswing. I have been thinking about this and checked it on the club website only out once to spinners LBW normally early on in the innings or what appears to be really annoying is the amount of time i have been out to the 3-4 change bowlers which tend to be the tight containing hit the length type.

Like the one about seeing where my head is in relation to the off stump.

Yeah just try and get to a point where you know exactly where your off stump is without even looking at it. What I have found that my players who have this problem have no idea where their head is in relation to their stumps. If that is the case you can't possibly make play the right shot. Often they will play a leg side shot to ball outside off (great if your KP). Some will get given out LBW and argue with the umpire that it had to missing leg when really they were falling to the off side and were trapped in front. Any way, as most people have said, sort your head out and you should be on the right track.
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Re: Stance to help NOT be LBW candidate
« Reply #29 on: January 06, 2013, 01:57:33 PM »

A few thoughts.

Obviously, the one that I am very surprised nobody has already asked is, are you getting the same LBW decision repeatedly (eg Graeme Smith's tendency of falling over his front leg to an inswinger) or are you getting a range of decisions to different bowling?

I'll assume until you say otherwise that the latter is the case.  I wonder, do you constantly check your guard?  You say that you just seem to find yourself in front and I wonder whether you might be subconsciously geting further over as time progresses.

If this is not the case, its worth thinking about where you are moving your feet to - I've seen a lot of players who seem to look to throw their front leg at the ball, rather than just to the side of it.  If you open your stance ever so slightly, you might find it easier to get the ball arriving under your nose and in the meat of the blade...
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