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[joeljonno]

Hi all

I've searched for this on here and cannot see anything, so apologies if it has come up.

Is there any way to tell whether a bat is English or Kashmir willow?

I am aware that Kashmir is generally heavier, harder and darker but I cannot tell with my untrained eye and nothing Kashmir to compare against.

Your advice will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Hewie

[Bruce]

As far as I know from having a Kashmir bat, the grains are a lot fainter/ not as defined as an ew bat

[ammo]

and i think you cannot dent kashmir willow with fingernail but you can with english willow

[Manormanic]

I've yet to see a Kashmir you ouldn't pick with teh naked eye - the grains tend to be all over the place and the contrast between grains and the willow beteen completely different to an english willow bat

[norbs]

another myth the heavier / harder thing as with all things natural it will depend

As people have said the grain is fuzzier due to the growing conditions

[alba caerulea]

And its a different tree

[Number4]

And its a different tree

I was under the impression that they are the same species just grown in different regions. English in England and Kashmir in .... Wait for it... Kashmir .. And different soils, temperatures, and growing conditions give it different properties... But hey what do I know

[tim2000s]

I was under the impression that they are the same species just grown in different regions. English in England and Kashmir in .... Wait for it... Kashmir .. And different soils, temperatures, and growing conditions give it different properties... But hey what do I know

Yup, EWNI or Kashmir as we also know it is often shipped baby trees from the UK to India.

[Aswani Cricket]

As Tim says, some companies sell "EWNI" (English Willow Nurtured in India) as distinct from Kashmir Willow and say that it is English Willow seed taken and planted in Kashmir.  There is a difference, but due to the growing conditions in India, it will be far inferior to English Willow grown in England.

[Aswani Cricket]

I've yet to see a Kashmir you ouldn't pick with teh naked eye - the grains tend to be all over the place and the contrast between grains and the willow beteen completely different to an english willow bat

Often, you'll see a "double grain", ie. a wider grain, then a narrow grain which is almost grey in colour ... then wide, then narrow

[tushar sehgal]

Where can I buy the "seed" for english willow to be shipped here(Canada)?? I have a nice enough yard that I could plant 4-5 and would really like to try it

[tim2000s]

Where can I buy the "seed" for english willow to be shipped here(Canada)?? I have a nice enough yard that I could plant 4-5 and would really like to try it

A yard isn't really enough. You need to have the appropraite soil and water course. For English willow, sodden ground is very important.

[tushar sehgal]

A yard isn't really enough. You need to have the appropraite soil and water course. For English willow, sodden ground is very important.

Its always sodden I am right close to the ocean...Yard is long enogh to have two back to back cricket pithces...plus a little trial wouldn't/shouldn't hurt!!

[joeylough]

is that a vineyard. As a yard over here is a bit like coronation street.

[ItsJustCricket]

Tap it up with a mallet.  They sound very different...