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Re: Laminated Bats in Cricket
« Reply #60 on: June 08, 2010, 09:32:57 AM »

PVA seems to be the weapon of choice for many people, in the handle this is just fine, not sure about the laminated layer though - i can see no reason why it should be any different?
I've only seen and used a few laminates so my knowledge is pretty poor - i suppose the ihsan pictured is rather abviously laminated, whereas the one  i have it is almost impossible to recognise, i suppose it's down to the skill of the batmaker.
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« Reply #61 on: June 08, 2010, 09:43:41 AM »

I spoke to a recently released county player this weekend and he was saying the majority of the side he was playing for used laminated bats with upto 3 layers... Im not naming names though but they were very high profile players!
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Re: Laminated Bats in Cricket
« Reply #62 on: June 08, 2010, 09:55:41 AM »

I spoke to a recently released county player this weekend and he was saying the majority of the side he was playing for used laminated bats with upto 3 layers... Im not naming names though but they were very high profile players!

I agree with that, as I know quite a few players who use these bats.

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« Reply #63 on: June 08, 2010, 10:03:12 AM »

Vantage - you mentioned before someone turned up to your workshop with a bat with a thin sheet of rubber in it. I thought they were just wood and the stiffness created the power?

Is the face layer hard and the subsequent layers lighter or softer.

James Laver uses a "aliphatic glue" for the handles according to L&W facebook page.
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« Reply #64 on: June 08, 2010, 10:13:43 AM »

Thats just what I was thinking Beach. I've got access to polyurethane foam and also a selction of rubber compounds. so was wondering if i could hollow out a bat, using a cnc router then fill it with a product then put a veneer on the top face?
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Re: Laminated Bats in Cricket
« Reply #65 on: June 08, 2010, 10:23:32 AM »

I spoke to a recently released county player this weekend and he was saying the majority of the side he was playing for used laminated bats with upto 3 layers... Im not naming names though but they were very high profile players!

Surely the first class umpires must be noticing this and saying something?

Thats just what I was thinking Beach. I've got access to polyurethane foam and also a selction of rubber compounds. so was wondering if i could hollow out a bat, using a cnc router then fill it with a product then put a veneer on the top face?

forget J-Lo's bum - with that technique you could have a bat with the bum the size of serena williams'
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Re: Laminated Bats in Cricket
« Reply #66 on: June 08, 2010, 11:14:10 AM »

think that curvature is just abit too much, lol.
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Re: Laminated Bats in Cricket
« Reply #67 on: June 08, 2010, 12:05:38 PM »

Thats just what I was thinking Beach. I've got access to polyurethane foam and also a selction of rubber compounds. so was wondering if i could hollow out a bat, using a cnc router then fill it with a product then put a veneer on the top face?

You and your CNC machine.... 

How are you going to get any performance gains for your bat with PU and rubber compounds and some veneer?
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Re: Laminated Bats in Cricket
« Reply #68 on: June 08, 2010, 12:08:27 PM »

Buzz - excellent example of curvature!  :D
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Re: Laminated Bats in Cricket
« Reply #69 on: June 08, 2010, 12:12:16 PM »

So theoretically speaking, if i were to get a bat (pre made), take the front face off (around 10mm), make a groove (not sure on size), place some bouncy material in the groove(rubber) then place a small piece of willow (higher quality then the donor bat) back on the face and laminate it using some adhesive and a lot of weight. You reckon I'd have made a decent bat for catching practice?

You and your CNC machine.... 

How are you going to get any performance gains for your bat with PU and rubber compounds and some veneer?

I know boys and their toys, I'm just getting use to using it so right now I'm practicing on anything and everything. Thought might as well try something that I might use.
Just trying to think of springy materials that I could access to fill a cavity within a laminated bat.
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Re: Laminated Bats in Cricket
« Reply #70 on: June 08, 2010, 12:16:13 PM »

why springy, why not rigid?
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Re: Laminated Bats in Cricket
« Reply #71 on: June 08, 2010, 12:18:19 PM »

thinking of rubber as it holds a rigid form but has some give. Or would perhaps some resin and something be a better option much more rigid. I was afraid of breaking the material on high impact.
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Re: Laminated Bats in Cricket
« Reply #72 on: June 08, 2010, 12:19:31 PM »

So theoretically speaking, if i were to get a bat (pre made), take the front face off (around 10mm), make a groove (not sure on size), place some bouncy material in the groove(rubber) then place a small piece of willow (higher quality then the donor bat) back on the face and laminate it using some adhesive and a lot of weight. You reckon I'd have made a decent bat for catching practice?

I know boys and their toys, I'm just getting use to using it so right now I'm practicing on anything and everything. Thought might as well try something that I might use.
Just trying to think of springy materials that I could access to fill a cavity within a laminated bat.

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Re: Laminated Bats in Cricket
« Reply #73 on: June 08, 2010, 12:31:06 PM »

I picked up a pink skyer off ebay for around £30 and the ball goes like a trampoline off it!
Makes catching practice better fun!
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Re: Laminated Bats in Cricket
« Reply #74 on: June 08, 2010, 12:46:30 PM »

thanks pete, I don't really want to buy something I could possibly make. It's not just to have a bat for catching practice it's to start to understand more about what makes a good bat. Thats why I posted in the Bat Making forum.
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