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Hammer Cricket

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Trying out a new trigger movement.
« on: January 25, 2013, 02:48:23 AM »

what do you think of my new trigger...back foot back and across rather than planting my front foot..

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Re: Trying out a new trigger movement.
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2013, 02:56:34 AM »

Forgetting about the trigger movement for now, one thing I noticed is that you're not watching the ball onto the bat - it seems that you're only watching it about half way.
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Re: Trying out a new trigger movement.
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2013, 03:18:56 AM »

Playing away from your body a hell of a lot in the beginning. In the first lot of footage, rarely are your bat and pad together, meaning you are overbalancing a fair bit and leaving a large gap between bat and pad. Your foot only ever plants pretty much down the track on middle. Even on a couple of straight balls, your front foot went outside leg and there was a gap as you played it to the leg side. Work to play these much straighter as an extension to the forward defensive.

Much better from 5 minutes on when you started playing forward defensives and with bat and pad together.

Another thing you might try is to get a real good stride onto that front foot. It seemed a lot of the time you were in no man's land - stuck on the crease, not forward or back.

To be quite honest, I don't like your movement just before the ball is bowled of the back foot moving across, but that might just be what you are comfortable with. It means it's difficult to get back on the back foot to play a shorter ball (cut or pull) as there are too many movements, it squares you up a lot and leg stump bowling and short bowling just looks plain awkward.

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Re: Trying out a new trigger movement.
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2013, 07:53:51 AM »

Doesn't look like much of a trigger to me. In some of the shots, your foot goes the other way and your head counterbalances. Absolutely no point in a trigger movement as far as I'm concerned, too many moving parts to go wrong. Stay still at release, get still at impact, watch the ball onto the bat!
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Re: Trying out a new trigger movement.
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2013, 08:19:12 AM »

Footwork is all over the place to be honest... Very jumpy on the shortish stuff and playing a long way from your body.
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Re: Trying out a new trigger movement.
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2013, 08:26:08 AM »

Keep practicing Jason. Trigger is essential in my book and hence why 99% professional players do it. If you are going to be facing any decent amount of pace like I said its essential.

You wouldn't  stand still receiving a tennis serve. You don't stand still when fielding etc etc etc

Just keep practicing it mate.
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Re: Trying out a new trigger movement.
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2013, 08:36:29 AM »

Keep practicing Jason. Trigger is essential in my book and hence why 99% professional players do it. If you are going to be facing any decent amount of pace like I said its essential.

You wouldn't  stand still receiving a tennis serve. You don't stand still when fielding etc etc etc

Just keep practicing it mate.
Agree, essential when facing pace, and essential that its grooved correctly! Practice, practice, practice!
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Re: Trying out a new trigger movement.
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2013, 08:36:50 AM »

First 5 minutes you do plant your front foot down the wicket and then push the bat at the line of the ball. Sometimes cramping you down leg and sometimes forcing you to chase outside off. All your eggs are in one basket as you've already noticed. Your head was also falling over.

Second 5 minutes is better, you look slightly better balanced. However, you were making multiple trigger movements. Most occasions your back foot goes across and was followed by your front foot. You end up shuffling across rather than making a positive second movement towards the ball. Back foot across is fine but the second movement has to be the major shot making movement. I would try to make 1 movement very early and keep your front foot still until you see the line of the ball. By the end of the session it appeared you were doing this much better. The head position was miles better as well.

Might want to turn the speed down if this was the dodgy bowling machine!
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Re: Trying out a new trigger movement.
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2013, 08:37:12 AM »

I cant see any trigger, you seem to be lifting your foot up on to the ball of your foot rather than back and across as mentioned. Simmy had the same issue when moving to his trigger movement. It will come with practice but maybe try making the movement bigger than normal just to get the feet moving?

also have to agree with Matt about the ball watching, or lack off.
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Re: Trying out a new trigger movement.
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2013, 08:40:44 AM »

A bit of extra bounce in that lane ??
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Re: Trying out a new trigger movement.
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2013, 08:41:37 AM »

I cant see any trigger, you seem to be lifting your foot up on to the ball of your foot rather than back and across as mentioned. Simmy had the same issue when moving to his trigger movement. It will come with practice but maybe try making the movement bigger than normal just to get the feet moving?

also have to agree with Matt about the ball watching, or lack off.

yeah it looks like u had a simliar issue to me jason..

i use to lift my back leg and go back and away ever so slightly then lunge forward..

ive gone for a more back and across trigger now but its still in early stages and i do not feel comfortable with it yet.

i have tried no trigger at all just standing still but i find it hard to get moving then.

like anything practice practice practice
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Re: Trying out a new trigger movement.
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2013, 08:48:58 AM »

Whilst I take on all members comments , one cannot keep their eyes level and focused on the ball or bowlers approach if moving around the crease.

Eyes should be level , focused and feet positioned.
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Re: Trying out a new trigger movement.
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2013, 08:52:05 AM »

I thought a back foot movement back and across was generally considered a no no as it causes problems playing outside off and limits your scoring areas on leg? I've just spent a year getting rid of this movement that had crept into my batting!
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Re: Trying out a new trigger movement.
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2013, 08:54:36 AM »

I thought a back foot movement back and across was generally considered a no no as it causes problems playing outside off and limits your scoring areas on leg? I've just spent a year getting rid of this movement that had crept into my batting!

when most pro's do it i cant see how ..

going back and across(towards offstump) is fine.. but opens up lbw i think but its easier to play the ball out side offstump as u are across in line with it
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Re: Trying out a new trigger movement.
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2013, 08:55:50 AM »

Keep practicing Jason. Trigger is essential in my book and hence why 99% professional players do it. If you are going to be facing any decent amount of pace like I said its essential.

You wouldn't  stand still receiving a tennis serve. You don't stand still when fielding etc etc etc

Just keep practicing it mate.

To be honest, I'd have him getting his general foot movement, stance, shot selection and leaves all rectified before adding in the trigger movement. Not sold on trigger movements, but if he wants to have one, get the rest of it right firs.
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