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Re: Test Squad for India
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2013, 09:28:08 AM »

The bowling attack, seem to be 1 bowler short:-

Mitchell Johnson - can't keep his arm up straight let alone bowl straight 
James Pattinson - injured 99% of the time and surely can't play in a 2 seam attack for that reason
Mitchell Starc
Peter Siddle
Jackson Bird - no, really. Didn't realise getting cheap Sri Lankan wickets qualified? So this is like Jimmy Ormond get 5 wickets against Zim and being a world beater?
Xavier Doherty - the only leftie (apart from Beer) not to get KP out when it matters
Nathan Lyon

Is Maxwell and Henriques (who doesn't get a bowl much in big bash) going to take a wicket in India? We saw what happened to fat Samit and he did at least have International Cricket behind him.
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Re: Test Squad for India
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2013, 09:30:19 AM »

I miss Vic's arguments, at least he put up some sort of case for a future for the Aussie team.
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Re: Test Squad for India
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2013, 09:31:09 AM »

Seriously, Lyon is not even county standard - he only looks vaguely decent when compared to Cullen, Casson, White, Krezja, McGain, Doherty and Beer.  What has he achevied thus far in Test cricket?   Nothing save a few tail end wickets...

now your being harsh, I'm sure the Unicorns would have him
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Re: Test Squad for India
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2013, 09:32:08 AM »

He is a good writer and a thoroughly likeable chap but his performances in Test cricket suggest that he is some way short of the standard that Australian openers are expected to reach.  And thats having been able to mostly mug off poor opposition...


He's made decent scores against India and South Africa. How quickly we forget his century at the start of summer vs. SA.

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Stop it, you're killing me!  He's done well, but is funadmentally unwilling to take the mental steps needed to reach world class (ie to accept that its okay to leave the ball)  Even if he did, the chnces of him being the best in the world are similar to yours.


You're joking right? You're having a go the mental side of his game? Here's a couple of games to remember:

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/518948.html
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He's made a few cheap runs against Sri Lanka.  Big deal.


What else can he do? He can only make runs against whoever he is playing against.

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Seriously, Lyon is not even county standard


Just stop it now, please, you troll.
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Re: Test Squad for India
« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2013, 09:32:21 AM »

Siddle will run through walls for Australia, the rest of the seam attack bar Johnson would knock themselves out on that wall and be out for the series and Johnson would miss the wall completely and run onto the motorway and get hit by a truck.

Spinners? Well, Lyon is ok, not quite as bad as all that but he's not the best. Put it like this I doubt he would get into any other international side. Doherty? No, just no! Dreadful!
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Re: Test Squad for India
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2013, 09:39:50 AM »

I think Lyons decent, on par with Tredwell I guess, certainly much worse spinners than him have clocked up a few England caps.
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Re: Test Squad for India
« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2013, 09:56:21 AM »

He's made decent scores against India and South Africa. How quickly we forget his century at the start of summer vs. SA.

Not forget - place in context.  He scored a ton, but has done nothing since (and scored it on a 500-4 pitch...

What else can he do? He can only make runs against whoever he is playing against.

Thats the point - he'd been identified by HIS OWN SELECTORS as the man they wanted in the team but they decided NOT TO SELECT HIM for the South Africa series because they knew that he would get worked over.  In effect he became the first specialist batsman to require a nightwatchman for an entire test series.

I'm not sure how he can play on knowing that - I mean, when he comes out to face Anderson, Finn and Co, can you imagine the sledging he'll get (thats assuming he wn't require someone else to face them for him!)

Just stop it now, please, you troll.

How clever - you have no possible defence of Lyon so resort to insults.  Well Done!
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Re: Test Squad for India
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2013, 09:57:08 AM »

now your being harsh, I'm sure the Unicorns would have him

Really?  They had a couple of decent kids last season - one of them actually got the ball off the straight... ;)
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Re: Test Squad for India
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2013, 09:59:43 AM »

I think Lyons decent, on par with Tredwell I guess, certainly much worse spinners than him have clocked up a few England caps.

Lyon is nowhere near Tredwell's level (and I wouldn't personally let Tredwell anywhere near the England side) - Tredwell turns the ball square, Lyon doesn't turn it at all.

But yes, England have picked one or two bad ones over the years - Richard Dawson springs to mind - though even he was better than dear Nathan.  And, erm, isn't it a bit sad that we're compared the "mighty" Australia to a 90s England side...
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Re: Test Squad for India
« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2013, 10:09:13 AM »

why no O'keefe ???
Australian spin is just abysmal even o'keefe isnt that good
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Re: Test Squad for India
« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2013, 12:24:23 PM »

Sad thing is I think this Aussie team still has a very good chance of beating India :(
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Re: Test Squad for India
« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2013, 12:26:40 PM »

I think Dhoni will be safe this time preparing square turners...
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Re: Test Squad for India
« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2013, 12:29:38 PM »

Well, since Aussie batsmen don't tend to play anything that swings well, he might just elect to play those two piddly medium pacers from the one day series ;)

Seriously, India and Australia are probably about as bad as each other now - Clarke is the gun batsman in the series but the overall strength of India's top seven beats Australia's, and the stronger Aussie pace battery is off set by Indias greater selection of spinners and ability to chooise the conditions.  Should be a close but poor quality series.
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Re: Test Squad for India
« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2013, 01:38:57 PM »

This is without a doubt the worst Australian touring squad I have seen in my lifetime.  One world class batsman in Clarke and a few young seamers with potential and thats it.  Bits and pieces allrounders, two spinners that wouldn't get in any other test team in the world, seamers that are made of biscuits and a wicketkeeper who could be the long lost Akmal brother.
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Re: Test Squad for India
« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2013, 01:49:14 PM »

I don't care who the Aussies field, I just hope they get absolutley battered. Im English, why would I wish anything else.

End of the day, you boys had a field of legends, they all retired, and you've never had anything to back them up. You have been found out.

Bring on the summer.
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