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Re: NZ vs Eng
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2013, 12:19:27 PM »

Hales in for Bell, Kp in at 4 and root 5. Job done. See how that goes for a few series. Root looks like he could potentially take over from KP at 4. We just need to find a trott replacement as he's in his 30's.

Personally think Root is a better replacement for Trott and someone like Bairstow a replacement for KP
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Re: NZ vs Eng
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2013, 12:29:39 PM »

Personally think Root is a better replacement for Trott and someone like Bairstow a replacement for KP

Could be.
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Re: NZ vs Eng
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2013, 12:30:03 PM »

why has no one said drop Morgan?

Shows how good he is when I forgot he was even in the team
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Re: NZ vs Eng
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2013, 12:34:12 PM »

Shows how good he is when I forgot he was even in the team


Morgan is world class lets not forget.




You've got a seriously strong pool of players if he can't get a game. He would walk into any one day side as a finisher.
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Re: NZ vs Eng
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2013, 12:38:52 PM »

Morgan has been poor for a while and should make way for KP. That top 4 looks particularly solid and that showed today considering how easy they made that chase look. Bell has flourished since taking the openers spot and it would be foolish to ditch him now. Still think there's a case for playing another all-rounder in place of Broad, who hasn't contributed with the bat for a long time and is struggling for consistency with the ball. I'm thinking Ricki Clarke / Ben Stokes or , god forbid, Ravi Bopara.
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Re: NZ vs Eng
« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2013, 12:42:07 PM »

why has no one said drop Morgan?

When it's said it falls on deaf ears because of potential shown 4 years ago!!

Morgan has a good innings now and then, but when was his last good run of innings?

Drop Morgan for Root.

I'd like to see Hales tried at opening, if he performs better than Bell, then tell Bell to go improve/show he can still do it.

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Re: NZ vs Eng
« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2013, 12:42:33 PM »

Morgan is world class lets not forget.

You've got a seriously strong pool of players if he can't get a game. He would walk into any one day side as a finisher.

It all depends what you want from a player.

I would personally want a team of batsmen who would consistently push into the 40's so looking at a score of 250+ each time you play. Rather than batsmen who will get 80 then a duck.

Morgan is hit and miss. Dont get me wrong he can and has produced some great finishes, but he has also had a lot of low scores recently.
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Re: NZ vs Eng
« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2013, 12:46:51 PM »

Cook(C)
Hales
KP
Root
Morgan
Buttler/Davies/Prior(W/K)
Swann
Patel/Woakes
Dernbach/Meaker/Broad
Finn
Anderson

I'm a big fan of Trott but with the likes of Hales, Root and Cook in the team you don't need another anchor imo. Plus in the shorter forms of the game a match can swing in one over and KP is more likely to produce that game changing over than Trott...
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Re: NZ vs Eng
« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2013, 12:52:37 PM »

I do think that Hales deserves a go in ODI cricket. His form in T20 has been good since he came into the side and he obviously has a good temperament for International cricket so why not give him a go?

With Bell's S/R lower than Trott's I can't really see any reason why we need him in the side. He's not there to anchor the innings (I doubt he'll ever be able to bat through an innings in the manner of Trott) so what is his role? 
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Re: NZ vs Eng
« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2013, 01:05:56 PM »

Morgan is still that player like Mccullum showed today and KP that the opposition will fear. Those players can take games away from teams. Without Mccullums knock today it would've been a very one sided affair
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Re: NZ vs Eng
« Reply #25 on: February 20, 2013, 01:06:42 PM »

With Bell's S/R lower than Trott's I can't really see any reason why we need him in the side. He's not there to anchor the innings (I doubt he'll ever be able to bat through an innings in the manner of Trott) so what is his role?

He's quite stylish and has a good sneer.
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Re: NZ vs Eng
« Reply #26 on: February 20, 2013, 01:30:23 PM »

He's quite stylish and has a good sneer.

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The Ian Bell sneer! There is no more amusing sight in cricket!

Never been a big fan of his. On his day he IS world class but those days seem to come around so rarely. Most of the time he looks like he is playing for himself and not the team.
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Re: NZ vs Eng
« Reply #27 on: February 20, 2013, 01:33:30 PM »

I see the Bell bashers are back out in force again today.  In the last 12 months since he has come back into the team Bell averages over 55 at a strike rate of 79 and you all want him dropped.  In this period he averages 20 more than Cook and at a better strike rate.  He averages 19 more than Warner and 15 more than Clarke at a slightly slower strike in the same period yet apparantly he is not worthy of a place in our side!

He also has similar stats to Collingwood over the course of his career, most people agree that Collingwood was a very good one day player.
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Re: NZ vs Eng
« Reply #28 on: February 20, 2013, 01:48:44 PM »

Actually I like watching Bell. When he's in form he looks very classy.
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Re: NZ vs Eng
« Reply #29 on: February 20, 2013, 01:54:05 PM »

watching the highlights now, bell isnt the problem, its Broad, if anyone is gonna be dropped he needs to be first to go
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