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Re: Australia in India 2013
« Reply #45 on: February 22, 2013, 12:44:40 PM »

To be fair, Clarke has to bat under a lot of pressure!
Time and time again, most of the top order are failing, leaving the responsibility of having to get runs on his shoulders! Respect to the guy! He seems to keep delivering. Ok...he should have been out on 39 or whenever that was. But he's certainly made them pay for not having DRS  8)

The one thing I have noticed about Cook, Amla, Clarke and others who have been on excellent form over the last year or two, is the amount of concentration they seem to possess!

I would throw in how relaxed they are while batting too Pete
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Re: Australia in India 2013
« Reply #46 on: February 22, 2013, 12:57:11 PM »

No matter what level of cricket your 2 openers are there to do a job.

They are there to protect 3,4 & 5 from the new ball, take the shine off and negate the swing so 3,4 & 5 can come out and score as freely as possible.

And we were actually were talking about moving Clarke up the order when you made that crazy statement.

What level do you play and what position do you bat?

I am an opening batsman, and I can say without fear that openers are crucial to a good side.

You cannot get away with non specialist openers for very long either.

It is a specialist role.
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Re: Australia in India 2013
« Reply #47 on: February 22, 2013, 01:40:36 PM »

I am an opening batsman, and I can say without fear that openers are crucial to a good side.

You cannot get away with non specialist openers for very long either.

It is a specialist role.

Seconded!
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Re: Australia in India 2013
« Reply #48 on: February 22, 2013, 01:43:40 PM »

I am an opening batsman, and I can say without fear that openers are crucial to a good side.

You cannot get away with non specialist openers for very long either.

It is a specialist role.

I'm not an opener and have no interest in opening. However in the league games I've opened in I've scored 40+ every time (at a SR of 80+) against decent opposition. So, I don't think at the lower level it's as specialist as openers like to make out. I do think it's a different mental process to batting at 3/4/5/6. Nothing more.
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Re: Australia in India 2013
« Reply #49 on: February 22, 2013, 02:40:17 PM »

Clarke was sooooooo out, another Indian clanger for not having DRS.

Clarke should be ashamed of himself for standing there for that because he knew damn well he'd all but middled it.  Dirty cheat if you ask me! ;)
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Re: Australia in India 2013
« Reply #50 on: February 22, 2013, 02:50:24 PM »

Clarke should be ashamed of himself for standing there for that because he knew damn well he'd all but middled it.  Dirty cheat if you ask me! ;)

I agree. It was my thought as well. He knew he'd hit it so should have walked. Not walking when you know you've hit it is basically cheating.
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Re: Australia in India 2013
« Reply #51 on: February 22, 2013, 03:26:21 PM »

I agree. It was my thought as well. He knew he'd hit it so should have walked. Not walking when you know you've hit it is basically cheating.
Clarke should be ashamed of himself for standing there for that because he knew damn well he'd all but middled it.  Dirty cheat if you ask me! ;)

Australians have never know to be the ones to walk even when out unless given by the umpire, saw that in the home series against India few years ago ........ wouldn't expect anything else from the current lot as well ! Good players but not good ideals !!
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Re: Australia in India 2013
« Reply #52 on: February 22, 2013, 03:30:30 PM »

I get all of your points on not walking but Why would you walk if you are clarke after seeing the umpires make massive mistakes in the last series. I'd leave every decision down to the umpires now, the gentleman's game has long gone now and has been for a few years. I agree with clarke and rub it into the Indians once again for not having drs. It's their own stupid fault.
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Re: Australia in India 2013
« Reply #53 on: February 22, 2013, 03:34:40 PM »

I get all of your points on not walking but Why would you walk if you are clarke after seeing the umpires make massive mistakes in the last game. I'd leave every decision down to the umpires now, the gentleman's game has long gone now and has been for a few years. I agree with clarke and rub it into the Indians once again for not having drs. It's their own stupid fault.

I totally understand the point on mistakes gone before so this makes up for it. Plus I understand how India needs loads of these dodgy decisions against them as they are pig headed about DRS. However, why is it becoming accepted that Cricket is no longer a gentlemans game, played in the right spirit. Seems a bit depressing to me that it's getting more and more like football.
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Re: Australia in India 2013
« Reply #54 on: February 22, 2013, 03:39:25 PM »

I totally understand the point on mistakes gone before so this makes up for it. Plus I understand how India needs loads of these dodgy decisions against them as they are pig headed about DRS. However, why is it becoming accepted that Cricket is no longer a gentlemans game, played in the right spirit. Seems a bit depressing to me that it's getting more and more like football.
They'll be bullying the umpires next...

Oh, wait, Mike Gatting ???
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Re: Australia in India 2013
« Reply #55 on: February 22, 2013, 03:41:48 PM »

It is upsetting but the very fact that technology has been brought in means that nobody in there right mind would walk. Imagine walking then finding out when you get in the hutch you weren't out? I'm all for walking but it's getting similar to diving in football now in that everyone is doing it so why bother being honest? There will always be dishonesty in sport and invariably they will only be highlighted when its on the winning side. You don't get cited for not walking so the incentive is to stay put and let the umps make the decision, which I can understand entirely.
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Re: Australia in India 2013
« Reply #56 on: February 22, 2013, 03:43:09 PM »

They'll be bullying the umpires next...

Oh, wait, Mike Gatting ???

Don't know what he did as I never saw Gatting but if he was pressuring and mouthing off to umpires then that's bad.

It is upsetting but the very fact that technology has been brought in means that nobody in there right mind would walk. Imagine walking then finding out when you get in the hutch you weren't out? I'm all for walking but it's getting similar to diving in football now in that everyone is doing it so why bother being honest? There will always be dishonesty in sport and invariably they will only be highlighted when its on the winning side. You don't get cited for not walking so the incentive is to stay put and let the umps make the decision, which I can understand entirely.

So 'sportsmanship'. is dead then really? Very sad day. Might be time for me to evaluate how I play the game if it's genuinely how people want the game to go.
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Re: Australia in India 2013
« Reply #57 on: February 22, 2013, 03:44:37 PM »

Bradman was famously a 'non walker'.
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Re: Australia in India 2013
« Reply #58 on: February 22, 2013, 03:45:54 PM »

The gatt

mike gatting incident
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Re: Australia in India 2013
« Reply #59 on: February 22, 2013, 03:49:39 PM »

I hope he got a heavy heavy fine and banned for a shed loads of games??
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