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Re: Australia in India 2013
« Reply #495 on: March 24, 2013, 10:54:49 PM »

I don't even know that they are ready to turn them over AT home yet.  But they have made encouraging strides in bringing Dhawan and Vijay into the team instead of the same old faces
A side that's lost one home series in nearly a decade would certainly start favourites against anyone.

In fact India had been in decline long before England got the luck of the draw to pick them off.

They struggled against NZ in 2011, if not for a Harbhajan Singh hundred, they would've lost that series.

The defeat to England made India make the changes needed to start the rebuilding process.

Sehwag, Gambhir and Tendulkar have been deadweight a for along time. With 2 gone and Tendulkar soon to go, India's rebuilding will be complete.

South Africa in India is all ways close, but the lack of an outstanding spinner for the Proteas is what stops us winning a series there

The changes India made post the England series bode well for their future match ups.

M Vijay and Dhawan could be an excellent opening pair. They've played enough FC cricket to know their games.

Jadeja will be the vital 5th bowler, as we all know India aren't good enough to field just 4 bowlers outside India.
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Re: Australia in India 2013
« Reply #496 on: March 24, 2013, 10:57:03 PM »

Just read a tweet that India are planning a 3 match series prior to the tour of SA.

It's rumoured to be Tendulkar's retirement gig.

This seems a bit bizarre to me.

It would make more sense if Rahane or Rohit Sharma should be given these matches to gain experience prior to a tough tour.

Tendulkar should be happy with his 198 caps... 
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Re: Australia in India 2013
« Reply #497 on: March 24, 2013, 11:18:08 PM »

A side that's lost one home series in nearly a decade would certainly start favourites against anyone.

In fact India had been in decline long before England got the luck of the draw to pick them off.

They struggled against NZ in 2011, if not for a Harbhajan Singh hundred, they would've lost that series.

The defeat to England made India make the changes needed to start the rebuilding process.

Sehwag, Gambhir and Tendulkar have been deadweight a for along time. With 2 gone and Tendulkar soon to go, India's rebuilding will be complete.

South Africa in India is all ways close, but the lack of an outstanding spinner for the Proteas is what stops us winning a series there

The changes India made post the England series bode well for their future match ups.

M Vijay and Dhawan could be an excellent opening pair. They've played enough FC cricket to know their games.

Jadeja will be the vital 5th bowler, as we all know India aren't good enough to field just 4 bowlers outside India.
Based on Australia's performance I would say that England were not lucky to pick them off! They were just better than a decent Indian side in their own back yard which deserves a little more credit.
And Tendulkar's value to that side might extend beyond his actual runs scored, as it did with Ricky Ponting and Australia. I'm not Indian, an even I think calling tendulkar "dead weight" is disrespectful.
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Re: Australia in India 2013
« Reply #498 on: March 24, 2013, 11:25:37 PM »

Based on Australia's performance I would say that England were not lucky to pick them off! They were just better than a decent Indian side in their own back yard which deserves a little more credit.
And Tendulkar's value to that side might extend beyond his actual runs scored, as it did with Ricky Ponting and Australia. I'm not Indian, an even I think calling tendulkar "dead weight" is disrespectful.
NZ nearly(probably should've) beat India in India, so yes England got the luck off the draw. If it was the Proteas, SL or Pak would've picked India off. 

If Indians I know think Tendulkar's shouldn't be in the team, then I'm certainly not disrespecting him.

He's a legend, but times up.
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Re: Australia in India 2013
« Reply #499 on: March 24, 2013, 11:29:46 PM »

NZ nearly(probably should've) beat India in India, so yes England got the luck off the draw. If it was the Proteas, SL or Pak would've picked India off. 

If Indians I know think Tendulkar's shouldn't be in the team, then I'm certainly not disrespecting him.

He's a legend, but times up.
SA yes, but they are the best team in the world. SL would have got a draw at best. Pakistan? I can only assume you haven't watched the latest series in South Africa as they were dreadful.
I know plenty of Indians and they all see the benefit of Tendulkar in the team for now.
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Re: Australia in India 2013
« Reply #500 on: March 24, 2013, 11:33:16 PM »

SA yes, but they are the best team in the world. SL would have got a draw at best. Pakistan? I can only assume you haven't watched the latest series in South Africa as they were dreadful.
I know plenty of Indians and they all see the benefit of Tendulkar in the team for now.
Pakistan in SA isn't comparable to Pakistan in the sub continent.

India struggled big time against Saeed Ajmal and Mohammad Irfan in their recent ODI series. Throw in Abdur Rehman and Junaid Khan/Umar Gul and that's a bowling attack easily good enough to rip India to shreds.

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Re: Australia in India 2013
« Reply #501 on: March 24, 2013, 11:43:09 PM »

Pakistan in SA isn't comparable to Pakistan in the sub continent.

India struggled big time against Saeed Ajmal and Mohammad Irfan in their recent ODI series. Throw in Abdur Rehman and Junaid Khan/Umar Gul and that's a bowling attack easily good enough to rip India to shreds.
Don't compare ODI to test cricket. Pakistan have proved they are a decent ODI side recently in SA and that is not what we are talking about.
The bowlers you have quoted would not "rip India to shreds". Even taking Tendulkar out of the equation 4/5 of india's top order would not be ripped to shreds by the attack you have quoted in the sub continent. 
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Re: Australia in India 2013
« Reply #502 on: March 24, 2013, 11:47:38 PM »

In my opinion Pakistan have better bowlers. India have better batsman. They are both atrocious in the field. This has been the case for at least 15 years

One thing is for sure - they are always matches worth watching!
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Re: Australia in India 2013
« Reply #503 on: March 24, 2013, 11:54:08 PM »

Don't compare ODI to test cricket. Pakistan have proved they are a decent ODI side recently in SA and that is not what we are talking about.
The bowlers you have quoted would not "rip India to shreds". Even taking Tendulkar out of the equation 4/5 of india's top order would not be ripped to shreds by the attack you have quoted in the sub continent.
Even Tendulkar, as his best, couldn't  pick Ajmal. He admitted as much.

Ajmal by himself is unplayable. He taught England a few lessons...

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Re: Australia in India 2013
« Reply #504 on: March 24, 2013, 11:56:01 PM »

Ok I going to say it your in a position of power we all bow down to South Africa best side to ever play cricket shame your police are not quite as good
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Re: Australia in India 2013
« Reply #505 on: March 24, 2013, 11:57:14 PM »

In my opinion Pakistan have better bowlers. India have better batsman. They are both atrocious in the field. This has been the case for at least 15 years

One thing is for sure - they are always matches worth watching!
I think the fielding aspect for India has changed since Kirsten and now Fletcher took the reigns.

Kohli, Jadeja, Rahane(all their 12th man prior to Test debut), Vijay etc are fantastic fielders.

The Sehwag's Gambhir's Laxman's etc weren't to keen on fielding
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Re: Australia in India 2013
« Reply #506 on: March 24, 2013, 11:58:01 PM »

Ok I going to say it your in a position of power we all bow down to South Africa best side to ever play cricket shame your police are not quite as good
So by praising pakistan's bowlers, I get a bizarre reply like this?
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Re: Australia in India 2013
« Reply #507 on: March 25, 2013, 12:00:24 AM »

Tongue in cheek not bizarre mate
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Re: Australia in India 2013
« Reply #508 on: March 25, 2013, 12:05:07 AM »

Even Tendulkar, as his best, couldn't  pick Ajmal. He admitted as much.

Ajmal by himself is unplayable. He taught England a few lessons...
Is this the 35 year old with 133 test wicket world beater we are talking about? I agree England struggled, but England have struggled against far less capable spinners than him.
Tendulkar at his best? Ajmal didn't play test cricket until 2009, anyone with a basic understanding of test cricket knows Tendulkar's best was way before this.
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Re: Australia in India 2013
« Reply #509 on: March 25, 2013, 12:05:25 AM »

Still below the standard of South Africa, England, NZ in my opinion but yes they have improved

Good coach Fletcher, India are lucky to have him
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