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[Vic Nicholas]

And, NZ drew in Sri Lanka too, as well as in Australia. The England team seem to be with their captain too...

The inside word is that the players are 100% behind Clarkey.

Watson is the one they all loathe. Much like your boys loathe Pieterson and Compton.

[charlie15]

....but you won a series in India (when they were ripe for the picking) for the first time in 28 years and apparently all is well in the cricketing universe!

And a matter of months later that Indian side that was as you put it "ripe for the picking" annihlated you!

[charlie15]

Much like your boys loathe Pieterson and Compton.

The former is old news and has been dealt with, and unless I've missed something Compton isn't loathed??

[Vic Nicholas]

And a matter of months later that Indian side that was as you put it "ripe for the picking" annihlated you!

...and the Pakistani side we annihilated 3-0 then annihilated you 3-0 (let's not kid ourselves, if that series went for five tests, you would have lost 5-0)

...and the SA team that annihilated you AT HOME was lucky not to lose in Oz soon after.

It can go around in circles for ever.

You guys are basically average...if that.

We are (No Swearing Please).

[Vic Nicholas]

The former is old news and has been dealt with, and unless I've missed something Compton isn't loathed??

Both are hated...don't kid yourselves otherwise.

Trott is respected, but not particularly loved either.

[Binsy]

Both are hated...don't kid yourselves otherwise.

Trott is respected, but not particularly loved either.

Why is Compton hated and how do you know this? Similarly, why is Trott hated? Admittedly, both seem pretty focused individuals who perhaps don't strike you as being on the same wavelength as Anderson, Finn, Prior etc, but to say they're hated seems a stretch?

[Manormanic]

I can state with reasonable confidence that Trott is popular in the England dressing room - unlike KP, he can take the frequent ribbing about his South African roots!

[cricketbadger]

where has this talk of Trott and Compton being hated come from

[The_Bird]

where has this talk of Trott and Compton being hated come from

An Australian

[cricketbadger]

trying to shift some of the focus of his own shambolic side

[charlie15]

I'll be fair to Vic sometimes his posts are very good, but then you get the extreme which verges on vitriolic trolling, no offence Vic.

[Vic Nicholas]

I never said that Trott was "hated", you guys did.

I said he is "respected, but not loved".

A big difference.

Micky Vaughan is no fan of Trott's though - and that is very well known. Never forgave Trott for celebrating with his SA pals after they stitched up England in a home series.

<shrugs shoulders>

You guys already knew all the above - no need for me to remind you.

[Vic Nicholas]

trying to shift some of the focus of his own shambolic side

You can't shift focus off a side that has just lost 4-0, plonker.

Though I do notice that small reality never stopped you rejects after the 0-3 vs Pakistan and 0-2 vs SA, pretending that those series never happened.

Hypocrites.

[tim2000s]

Vic, as you guys have come down off being "Kings of the world" for a long period, I think it's only natural that you look at the side you have and describe it appropriately.
 English supporters, who remember the beat part of the last twenty years where at one point there was only Bangladesh below us in the rankings, we shrug our shoulders knowing how often we have had a mediocre team and that salvaging a draw versus the best team in the world in a series we lost the other two matches, while being disappointing, isn't as bad as a whitewash. We've also, too often been guilty of measuring ourselves against Australia, and judging by what's been going on recently, that's perhaps not such a good yardstick...

[Steveo1000]

The inside word is that the players are 100% behind Clarkey.

Watson is the one they all loathe. Much like your boys loathe Pieterson and Compton.

I would suggest the fight and togetherness shown by the Aussies in that last test despite losing suggests the complete opposite re Clarke and Watson.