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[Number4]

Australia cruise to victory over a toothless England Lions outfit at Bellerive

Headline as per the Herald Sun...

What's the story guys?.. Where are all these up and coming players English young guns???

Comments???

[Buzz]

already fast tracked into the full squads...

[Kulli]

Need to wheel in a few of the SA under 19's who have been destroying us this week, then we'll be all good.

[19reading87]

You only ever learn from defeat in life!! This will do them good

[ProCricketer1982]

Australia cruise to victory over a toothless England Lions outfit at Bellerive

Headline as per the Herald Sun...

What's the story guys?.. Where are all these up and coming players English young guns???

Comments???

Well a fair few have highlighted that actually England are far from flush with top talent. We are not quite as flush as some seem to think. 'Currently' in a better place than Australia though overall

[Number4]

Well a fair few have highlighted that actually England are far from flush with top talent. We are not quite as flush as some seem to think. 'Currently' in a better place than Australia though overall

Aus A probably don't agree haha 

[Number4]

Oh did I forget to mention the Aussie women now have 6 world cups...

Come on guys give me a break I have to take glory whenever I can get it at the moment

[ProCricketer1982]

I got loads of stick at work when the first Aus vs WI womens game was played. If WI won it was them and Australia in the final. If Aus won it was Aus vs England. I called it right at the start that Aus would lose (shock horror) that game to ensure they played WI in the final.

Now, that's not to say the English would have won. More because the English played badly all tournament (or at least nowhere near their best) so had the potential to improve. WI had over achieved with Dottin so given the choice you'd always take the over achievers who rely on two girls to fire over a team with potenital.

Shock horror Aus dominated a final.

As for the A sides.. who cares about them. It's all about the Test teams

[Binsy]

The recent performances by the Lions are worrying, particularly given we couldn't even beat the state sides and the recent dismissals of Coles and Stokes. Given a lot of these players have been mentioned in dispatches around senior sides and we can't even complain about unfamiliar conditions, it does question England's strength in depths. Still, at least we don't have Moises Henriques coming in at number 7 in a Test - now that does show a real lack of a talent pool.

[ProCricketer1982]

or Mitchell Johnson leading the bowling attack

But yes, I am not one of these who thinks it's all rosy in England's Cricketing future. I'm still waiting for Swann/Monty replacements. Where is the next Anderson? Flintoff?.  We seem to have no one currently up to test standard for opening or at 3.

Yes Root may become that but then who's going to take over from KP. Bairstow I like but still to be convinced that he's got the talent long term.


As for England Lions. I'd say the problem is that with the systems they have in place to produce talent. For every  Root/Taylor/Bairstow you'll get 5 or 6 big heads coming though who have talent but think 'I've cracked it'. it seems coles etc are just some. Sack them off and kick them in the guts, leave them to rot for a few years in county cricket. Petulant over paid children.

[Kulli]

or Mitchell Johnson leading the bowling attack

But yes, I am not one of these who thinks it's all rosy in England's Cricketing future. I'm still waiting for Swann/Monty replacements. Where is the next Anderson? Flintoff?.  We seem to have no one currently up to test standard for opening or at 3.

Yes Root may become that but then who's going to take over from KP. Bairstow I like but still to be convinced that he's got the talent long term.


As for England Lions. I'd say the problem is that with the systems they have in place to produce talent. For every  Root/Taylor/Bairstow you'll get 5 or 6 big heads coming though who have talent but think 'I've cracked it'. it seems coles etc are just some. Sack them off and kick them in the guts, leave them to rot for a few years in county cricket. Petulant over paid children.

Isn't this basically what happened to Swann?

[Binsy]

There are still a few older county pro's out there who could follow the example set by Compton and force their way into international colours through sheer weight of runs / wickets. It doesn't always need to be youth for the sake of youth. Not every youngster will take to international cricket like a duck to water as Root has done. Swanny is the obvious example of this, 

[ProCricketer1982]

Isn't thin basically what happened to Swann?

yes. And he was sent packing for years to (sort of ) grow up. He was given the kick in the guts so to speak so do the same now.

[tommo256]

Tymal mills for raw pace, ive faced him and hes fast

[wayward_hayward]

Only player who has performed consistently is James Taylor. Its worrying considering the amount of talent we are supposed to have  .