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Re: Bat Making vs Pod Shaving...
« Reply #30 on: March 05, 2013, 06:52:09 PM »
Thing about CNC made bats is that a computer can bang out exact replica's in so fast a time that the market doesn't allow for bulk suppliers to make bats by hand. Unless you have an army of batmakers under one roof!

Having said that one of the nicest bats I have used was a GM Luna 606, £95 and went like the eurostar!

I do like the feel of a GM bat, they are always neat and tidy and there is an amount of care that goes into making them. Currently I am using a Kooka Rogue that is also a lovely bat to use, wouldn't mind one day having a handmade bat though....  :-[
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Re: Bat Making vs Pod Shaving...
« Reply #31 on: March 05, 2013, 07:10:47 PM »
Quote from: goodarmcindy on February 27, 2013, 11:25:17 AM
So which brands in the UK make truly handmade bats, then?

Very few that I know off

Salix - Andrew Kember
H4L - Matt Barden
Choice Willow - Gary Sandford

By this I mean the shaping, rasping of the handle, shaping of the shoulders etc. These 3 can do this from a raw cleft to my knowledge I expect there are others.

I personally agree with most on here. I wouldn't not buy a bat tht gas been CNC made but I wouldn't pay a heavy premium for one when the companies above will offer you a fully customised service for the same price and indeed less at times.
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Re: Bat Making vs Pod Shaving...
« Reply #32 on: March 05, 2013, 07:13:04 PM »
Chase do everything....... ;)
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Re: Bat Making vs Pod Shaving...
« Reply #33 on: March 05, 2013, 07:14:10 PM »
So do Crown Sports in the north east :)
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Re: Bat Making vs Pod Shaving...
« Reply #34 on: March 05, 2013, 07:43:38 PM »
Quote from: toenails97 on March 05, 2013, 07:14:10 PM
So do Crown Sports in the north east :)

Who? Never heard of them before! May have to have a little google search.

Forgot about dan at chase
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Re: Bat Making vs Pod Shaving...
« Reply #35 on: March 05, 2013, 07:46:53 PM »
Theyre in Boldon in the North East mate, theyre great bats and you can go and get the full boutique experience seeing the bat being made etc! As far as im aware for that experience its pretty cheap compared to other brands and ping really nicely!
 
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Re: Bat Making vs Pod Shaving...
« Reply #36 on: March 05, 2013, 07:56:05 PM »
Just finalised a couple of RK bats from Ryan on the forum and from what I have seen and heard he may need to be added to the list of bat makers.

I look foward to recieving these.

Just checked the Crown website and its down :(
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Re: Bat Making vs Pod Shaving...
« Reply #37 on: March 05, 2013, 10:43:31 PM »
It all comes down to what u class as a bat maker. Like Ryan I can't press but I can handle, cut to length, shape shoulders and produce a bat from a pressed cleft. I've not seen any of Ryan's work first hand but pictures and feedback look good so sure your gonna get a couple of beauties there
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Re: Bat Making vs Pod Shaving...
« Reply #38 on: March 06, 2013, 10:47:22 PM »
I thought Pod Shaving was a term used to describe the techniques used to make a cricket bat; drawknife, spokeshaves etc, mainly Hand Made or Shaped. To me a Bat Maker is the same thing, hand work.
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Re: Bat Making vs Pod Shaving...
« Reply #39 on: March 07, 2013, 01:29:54 PM »
Tony at Warsop makes his by hand.
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Re: Bat Making vs Pod Shaving...
« Reply #40 on: November 14, 2013, 10:01:06 AM »
Quote from: SOULMAN1012 on March 05, 2013, 07:10:47 PM
Very few that I know off

Salix - Andrew Kember
H4L - Matt Barden
Choice Willow - Gary Sandford

By this I mean the shaping, rasping of the handle, shaping of the shoulders etc. These 3 can do this from a raw cleft to my knowledge I expect there are others.

 

I personally agree with most on here. I wouldn't not buy a bat tht gas been CNC made but I wouldn't pay a heavy premium for one when the companies above will offer you a fully customised service for the same price and indeed less at times.


Interesting subject. We make everything from scratch apart from the handles which are made for us but we are looking into that now. We press everything ourselves too. Machines do a good job when making bats. My feeling is and I may be wrong that some clefts may now require to be made in exactly the shape the CNC I programmed to as every cleft has different properties so can that be allowed for by a machine, I don't know I doubt it because when making by hand you are permanently evaluating the cleft as you go along. Yes you are keeping to your desired shape but slight changes are made to get exactly what you are looking for in that cleft.
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Re: Bat Making vs Pod Shaving...
« Reply #41 on: November 14, 2013, 11:06:05 AM »
Julian selects EVERY cleft from JS Wrights himself, sends them to India where he gets the clefts handled and pressed in a factory that he help set up using the old Stuart Surridge press. These handled clefts are shipped out to him and weigh around 3.10 pounds. He made me a bat this afternoon in less that 2 hours that is an absolute pinger and picks up a dream! There is no money in rough sawing the clefts and putting the handles in. If you could witness what I experienced this afternoon watching an absolute Master at work, you would understand why he is considered one of the best in the World by a long shot! He used nothing but a draw knife, hand planer and some sanding and polishing wheels. Incredible!
Ticked off my bucket list....!
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Re: Bat Making vs Pod Shaving...
« Reply #42 on: November 14, 2013, 11:28:28 AM »
Quote from: Wickets-then-runs on November 14, 2013, 11:06:05 AM
Julian selects EVERY cleft from JS Wrights himself, sends them to India where he gets the clefts handled and pressed in a factory that he help set up using the old Stuart Surridge press. These handled clefts are shipped out to him and weigh around 3.10 pounds. He made me a bat this afternoon in less that 2 hours that is an absolute pinger and picks up a dream! There is no money in rough sawing the clefts and putting the handles in. If you could witness what I experienced this afternoon watching an absolute Master at work, you would understand why he is considered one of the best in the World by a long shot! He used nothing but a draw knife, hand planer and some sanding and polishing wheels. Incredible!
Ticked off my bucket list....!

I seriously hope you were there with your camera/video camera and give us a blow by blow/ shaving by shaving account...

please!!
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Re: Bat Making vs Pod Shaving...
« Reply #43 on: November 14, 2013, 11:35:13 AM »
Quote from: Buzz on November 14, 2013, 11:28:28 AM
I seriously hope you were there with your camera/video camera and give us a blow by blow/ shaving by shaving account...

please!!

If there's no evidence, it didn't happen and you were just dreaming! ;)
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Re: Bat Making vs Pod Shaving...
« Reply #44 on: November 14, 2013, 01:26:21 PM »
Quote from: SOULMAN1012 on March 05, 2013, 07:10:47 PM
Very few that I know off

Salix - Andrew Kember
H4L - Matt Barden
Choice Willow - Gary Sandford

By this I mean the shaping, rasping of the handle, shaping of the shoulders etc. These 3 can do this from a raw cleft to my knowledge I expect there are others.

I personally agree with most on here. I wouldn't not buy a bat tht gas been CNC made but I wouldn't pay a heavy premium for one when the companies above will offer you a fully customised service for the same price and indeed less at times.

You say this but don't you have a B3 and several GM's?
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