Topic: Handmade deffinition (Read 6782 times)

kouservice · « **Reply #15 on:** February 27, 2013, 05:10:44 PM »

Quote from: tim2000s on February 27, 2013, 05:07:25 PM

I'd argue that SS's head podshaver puts as much heart and soul into the bats that he makes as Paul does. Just because the raw material isn't available in India, he must import it.

I completely agree.

Buzz · « **Reply #16 on:** February 27, 2013, 05:19:38 PM »

Quote from: tim2000s on February 27, 2013, 05:07:25 PM

I'd argue that SS's head podshaver puts as much heart and soul into the bats that he makes as Paul does. Just because the raw material isn't available in India, he must import it.

this shouldn't be just limited to the head pod shaver - there are several very fine batmakers out there.

Aldred Cricket Bats · « **Reply #17 on:** February 27, 2013, 05:35:32 PM »

I agree with that all the podshavers will be putting love and heart and soul into the bats they produce. I'm presuming that they are all hand made then I don't know myself if they are or not.
I know for certain that one of the issues is that a lot of bats are brought in under the radar. One of my old playing colleagues worked for a big importer of bats here in the uk imprting from Pakistan and they were importing over a quarter of a million ponds worth of bats a year. But they had to have words with them because the company were allowing people to come over and take bags full of bats back to the uk under the radar taking the risk of being caught by customs and selling in the uk for �70 - �100 undercutting the company that was providing them with huge exporting success. The only thing that was benefiting was a bank account not the UKs industries.

procricket · « **Reply #18 on:** February 27, 2013, 06:04:00 PM »

Quote from: Aldred Cricket Bats on February 27, 2013, 02:24:52 PM

Thanks thought it was a good way of putting a point over and pointing out the heart and soul that goes into it not the soulless production of thousands on a machine or shipped over in containers back to the country the wood grew in. Support British industry and craftsmanship particularly in the current financial climate.

I shall start supporting uk bat making when the prices come down mate

I also have a machine made uk made bat currently which had a lot of though about it and is as good as any bat I have used

Current financial climate well help us drop your prices then mate

fatbats · « **Reply #19 on:** February 27, 2013, 06:28:05 PM »

As with a lot of things you have to move with times and you can cut in house costs drastically with machinery as people are doing across buissnes

Speaking as someone who uses cncs every day the time that goes into designing a programme and setting up etc can be very rewarding when finished product comes out and can use manual to stop and asses at any stage

Aldred Cricket Bats · « **Reply #20 on:** February 27, 2013, 06:35:02 PM »

Would be nice if the prices did come down but willow prices keep rising. Another debate comes from that in who is it that is setting the market prices.

procricket · « **Reply #21 on:** February 27, 2013, 06:44:21 PM »

The prices of willow going up does not match the way prices have though not by a long shot.

Are your handles uk made mate with uk rubber and Cain.

I understand your point aldo I wish I could support uk makers more but it is hard to when the quality is also elsewhere at a great price.

SOULMAN1012 · « **Reply #22 on:** February 27, 2013, 06:45:43 PM »

Quote from: procricket on February 27, 2013, 06:04:00 PM

I shall start supporting uk bat making when the prices come down mate

In that case Paul offers a hand mate Silver Soverign bat for about �130 as do other Uk bat makers, so that isn't really an obstacle prices are in my mind quite fair. Of course if you want to spend big money than the companies with huge sponsorship over heads will be happy to take your money, just as the local British bat maker will as well but in the latter case you may be able to visit and have input into your bat for a very decent price.

Just my view

Aldred Cricket Bats · « **Reply #23 on:** February 27, 2013, 06:50:00 PM »

Unfortunately not this is one thing that absolutely know one does anymore as I can find I have spoke to one of the last few to make them and they are looking to buy from elsewhere. This is my ultimate aim to make them again and bring that skill back. That means we will need to employ someone else to be working for us. We aren't that big yet unfortunately.

tushar sehgal · « **Reply #24 on:** February 27, 2013, 06:50:20 PM »

Well thats an interesting one but i don't think there would ever be a clear answer to what is the cost of making a bat...

Cost of Cleft
Cost of making the bat
One times costs like garage/workshop etc (assuming small companies aren't paying rent as they have their own workshops) which would/should be paid off after the certain # of bats but does that mean that after they have sold 10000 bats the price comes down?

Additionally lets say all the costs to make a bat amount to 100 GBP and bat took two hours to make being sold at 200 GBP thats an hourly wage of 50GBP for that maker, now I understand that seller isn't making a bat every hour of the day but on average even if you sold 2 bats a day thats a 200GBP a day, salary of 4000GBP a month...don't know if these numbers are realistic but that i would guess is decent money....

uknsaunders · « **Reply #25 on:** February 27, 2013, 06:51:01 PM »

What annoys me is brands claiming bats are handmade in the uk when at best they handled and buffed it a bit. All the batmaking has been via a certain cnc.

fatbats · « **Reply #26 on:** February 27, 2013, 06:55:34 PM »

Nothing wrong with that if there up front and honest about it

procricket · « **Reply #27 on:** February 27, 2013, 06:57:37 PM »

Quote from: SOULMAN1012 on February 27, 2013, 06:45:43 PM

In that case Paul offers a hand mate Silver Soverign bat for about �130 as do other Uk bat makers, so that isn't really an obstacle prices are in my mind quite fair. Of course if you want to spend big money than the companies with huge sponsorship over heads will be happy to take your money, just as the local British bat maker will as well but in the latter case you may be able to visit and have input into your bat for a very decent price.

Just my view

I want the best for my buck that's what I'am getting at I understand tradition and the need to keep the tradition going but in the current economic climate it all about bangs for the bucks.

If you look at my back catalogue I have used most and can I have paid the top wack and bottom doller and had custom in front of me and machine made it makes no odds to me where it comes from a bat is a bat

uknsaunders · « **Reply #28 on:** February 27, 2013, 07:01:23 PM »

Quote from: fatbats on February 27, 2013, 06:55:34 PM

Nothing wrong with that if there up front and honest about it

You are right but not everybody is.

fatbats · « **Reply #29 on:** February 27, 2013, 07:04:45 PM »

True some hide as want to fool people but they get found out in end

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