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MCC to investigate edge sizes
« on: March 01, 2013, 01:53:10 PM »

Committee initiates research into the size of bat edges

Following a request from ICC’s Cricket Committee to report formally to them with opinions from MCC and its World Cricket committee, the group discussed a number of issues relating to the Laws of Cricket.

The World Cricket committee discussed the balance of the game between bat and ball and feels that the size of bats – and particularly the thickness of the edges – needs to be investigated. MCC will therefore research this matter over the coming months.
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Re: MCC to investigate edge sizes
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2013, 01:54:17 PM »

so a batmaker makes the edges the agreed thickness but goes beyond that a mm or two in from the edge?
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Re: MCC to investigate edge sizes
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2013, 01:56:47 PM »

could be an interesting conversation and to see how they go about it. whats a fair edge size if they were to limit it? surely that would be based on weight. a 2lb 9 bat with 40mm edges or a 3lb 2 with 40mm edges. does one make more of an impact that the other?
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Re: MCC to investigate edge sizes
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2013, 01:57:35 PM »

this shows a lack of understanding about making bats and the drying of willow. What could the outcomes be? Thick edges don't mean you hit the ball further out of the middle?
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Re: MCC to investigate edge sizes
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2013, 01:58:01 PM »

Well, I have at home a 2lb 10 Short Handle with 43mm edges and a 3lb 2 long blade with 44mm....one is surely more offensive than the other...
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Re: MCC to investigate edge sizes
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2013, 02:09:44 PM »

I don't understand how their findings could be used to limit a bats performance? Unless we are going to go down the route of 'approved profiles' then what changes could they possibly make? They can't put limits on weight so therefore they can't put limits on size! Seems like a waste of time....
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Re: MCC to investigate edge sizes
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2013, 02:11:02 PM »

The MCC have previously looked at putting a performance limit on a bat, but opted for the banning of non cork handles as an easier option. They may re-investigate that avenue.
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Re: MCC to investigate edge sizes
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2013, 02:12:23 PM »

I would go for a limit on weight and leave the batmakers to the rest. Even that is a tricky one as many pros have lightweight clefts and many weigh 2'9/10.  However, limiting weight to 2'10, for example, would at least restrict off centre hitting by those favouring huge willow eg. gayle . It also misses the point that Pros are so well drilled that they don't hit many shots off centre like us village hacks, so the edges play less part in their games.

They could do worse than increase boundary sizes, bat technology has made them easier to clear but the boundaries have come in, not out!
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Re: MCC to investigate edge sizes
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2013, 02:18:08 PM »

I completely agree with you on your second point.
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Re: MCC to investigate edge sizes
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2013, 02:18:34 PM »

Are they going to limit how much a spinner can turn a ball and how fast someone can ball it as well?

Maybe they will limit the amount of yorkers or good lenth balls bowled as well?

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Re: MCC to investigate edge sizes
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2013, 02:19:37 PM »

I would go for a limit on weight and leave the batmakers to the rest. Even that is a tricky one as many pros have lightweight clefts and many weigh 2'9/10.  However, limiting weight to 2'10, for example, would at least restrict off centre hitting by those favouring huge willow eg. gayle . It also misses the point that Pros are so well drilled that they don't hit many shots off centre like us village hacks, so the edges play less part in their games.

They could do worse than increase boundary sizes, bat technology has made them easier to clear but the boundaries have come in, not out!

valid point. for t20 they want runs scored and lots of boundaries so leave the bats and the boundaries as they are. for everything else make the boundaries slightly bigger. that would however mean no cricket except t20 can be played in NZ!  :D
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Re: MCC to investigate edge sizes
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2013, 02:26:07 PM »

Are they going to limit how much a spinner can turn a ball and how fast someone can ball it as well?

Maybe they will limit the amount of yorkers or good lenth balls bowled as well?

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misses the point. The cricket bat is an aid to the ability and strength of the cricketer. Using a bat 40 years ago would give a totally different experience to a 2013 bat, in terms of power and off centre hitting. In that respect batting technology has surpassed bowling/fielding gains made over the same period. That's before we talk about helmets making batsman less concerned about being hit or boundaries coming in. It's happening in club cricket as well, how many sixes does your club hit a season compared to 40 years ago?
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Re: MCC to investigate edge sizes
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2013, 02:27:04 PM »

it isn't as if we are seeing an increase in injuries related to fielders attempting to field with these "more powerful" bats.

Are they going to stop batsman pumping iron too, so they aren't as strong. This is a joke.
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Re: MCC to investigate edge sizes
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2013, 02:28:26 PM »

Or give each batsman 20 pints before they go out to bat. That should punish them for their talent.
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Re: MCC to investigate edge sizes
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2013, 02:31:58 PM »

I couldn't see a downside to reducing bats in some way. It would be a terrible shame if they had to play proper timed shots or improve their techniques to work the ball around more effectively. With my bowling hat on, what a shame if the big slogger couldn't walk out with his 3'4oz monster and flick it for six. What if he was fearful of not reaching the boundary with his 2'11 twig. My heart bleeds for the poor batsman lol
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