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Re: England vs New Zealand Tests
« Reply #555 on: March 25, 2013, 09:32:01 PM »

My theory is this..

Bar

Compton
Cook
Kp
Prior

No other English batsman deserves his place in the team currently...

Everybody can coo over Root but he has done nothing yet at all he has not proved he is good enough at first class level never mind test level. Bairstow will never hold down a spot unless he takes the gloves and bats at 7
None of the others deserve a place either...

My opinion may be a crap one just a thought thought though
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« Reply #556 on: March 25, 2013, 09:32:52 PM »

Fine can we both agree though that Williamson has got a very suspect action  :o
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Re: England vs New Zealand Tests
« Reply #557 on: March 25, 2013, 09:46:00 PM »

My theory is this..

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Compton
Cook
Kp
Prior

No other English batsman deserves his place in the team currently...

Everybody can coo over Root but he has done nothing yet at all he has not proved he is good enough at first class level never mind test level. Bairstow will never hold down a spot unless he takes the gloves and bats at 7
None of the others deserve a place either...

My opinion may be a crap one just a thought thought though

You can't take First Class stuff as an indicator. If so, we would never have picked Vaughan, Trescothick, Collingwood, and even some of the bowlers. He's proved himself a talented player in FC cricket anyway, his last couple of seasons have been excellent. The 222* out of 350/9 against a decent Hampshire attack should be an indicator of his ability. I think you're off the mark with your statement saying he's not as good as people think, nor will he ever be. People are excited about him not because of his batting in particular, but his grit, and his cricketing brain. If people stop putting undue pressure on him, he might prove his ability and temperament even more.

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Re: England vs New Zealand Tests
« Reply #558 on: March 25, 2013, 09:53:06 PM »

Being english, he's going to have to get used to pressure. There'll be calls to drop him if he doesn't save the test.
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Re: England vs New Zealand Tests
« Reply #559 on: March 25, 2013, 09:53:23 PM »

He 22 not 17 what do you expect from test cricket he needs to start doing it.
Why not drop him if he fails my only worry for who there hardly queuing up
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Re: England vs New Zealand Tests
« Reply #560 on: March 25, 2013, 09:59:44 PM »

Root using an ss??
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Re: England vs New Zealand Tests
« Reply #561 on: March 25, 2013, 10:06:57 PM »

if Peter Fulton can get back to back tons then all the England players should be able to. This wicket is FLAT
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Re: England vs New Zealand Tests
« Reply #562 on: March 25, 2013, 10:07:08 PM »

Root using an ss??

I just paused it and it looks very much to me like a chiselled off/scrubbed out BAS on the side of the bat.
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Re: England vs New Zealand Tests
« Reply #563 on: March 25, 2013, 10:10:43 PM »

He 22 not 17 what do you expect from test cricket he needs to start doing it.
Why not drop him if he fails my only worry for who there hardly queuing up
You say it like he's failed repeatedly! He's only into his fourth test match, and he's performed admirably when called upon (India, final test, to save the game). And as for queuing up, well there's Bairstow, Taylor, Alex Hales (opener but could move Compton to middle order), Gary Ballance, James Vince, Morgan, Patel, or indeed Prior, which would mean finding an all-rounder at 7... Woakes would be a decent shout. There are options, if you look. Taylor is sheer class, and has been banging on the door of selection for a couple of years now.

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Re: England vs New Zealand Tests
« Reply #564 on: March 25, 2013, 10:13:49 PM »



what do we reckon then??
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Re: England vs New Zealand Tests
« Reply #565 on: March 25, 2013, 10:15:15 PM »



what do we reckon then??


He left school without a GCSE in woodwork ;)
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Re: England vs New Zealand Tests
« Reply #566 on: March 25, 2013, 10:15:32 PM »

Some very harsh critics on here. Easy to talk the talk when you haven't played at test level ;)
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Re: England vs New Zealand Tests
« Reply #567 on: March 25, 2013, 10:18:27 PM »

I was just about to mention about Roots bat, he looks like it's been embossed, but not stained as such. I couldn't make out who it was though - That completely goes against what GM say about their pros...
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Re: England vs New Zealand Tests
« Reply #568 on: March 25, 2013, 10:19:23 PM »

You say it like he's failed repeatedly! He's only into his fourth test match, and he's performed admirably when called upon (India, final test, to save the game). And as for queuing up, well there's Bairstow, Taylor, Alex Hales (opener but could move Compton to middle order), Gary Ballance, James Vince, Morgan, Patel, or indeed Prior, which would mean finding an all-rounder at 7... Woakes would be a decent shout. There are options, if you look. Taylor is sheer class, and has been banging on the door of selection for a couple of years now.

Not failed but remember the same scrutiny Compton was under they all should be under.

That list worry's me a tad I do not see anybody outstanding James Vince is a interesting one

It interesting each county fans putting there own players in.

All great debate I hope root saves the test and starts repaying the faith people,are showing him.

Gary Ballance really?

Yes we are harsh indeed it called debating cricket..

I think it is realism 2 tests ago Root was going to take Compton place and be England opener for the next 15 years with the way people where talking...

It a debate and the England management like Root and I suspect they know a lot more than me
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Re: England vs New Zealand Tests
« Reply #569 on: March 25, 2013, 10:22:55 PM »

As a Hampshire fan, so having seen a bit of him, I think James Vince is currently more a one day player. Definitely one to watch for the future (but I said that about Liam Dawson a few years back)
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