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The Future of English Fast Bowling
« on: March 14, 2013, 11:40:28 AM »

Decent little article on Cricinfo today discussing the fact we may be struggling for quicks after the Ashes, and the future in general, compared to the likes of the Aussies.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/content/current/story/624670.html

Not the biggest fan of Boycott but he's rarely wrong and think he brings up a good point here.
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Re: The Future of English Fast Bowling
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2013, 12:24:07 PM »

Forgetting about Tremlett (when fit). Hardly think the cupboard is bare when you have a fit Anderson, Finn, Broad, Tremlett and Bres for 3 bowling spots. Might be an issue at this moment as Tremlett, Bres are recovering for injuries but Onions will do a job in England. Brooks and Meaker possibly have another season to mature.

I think it's just a slow news day at cricinfo.
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Re: The Future of English Fast Bowling
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2013, 12:40:11 PM »

Let's not forget about James Harris and the lad from Essex as well....I think we're pretty well off for quicks looking into the future plus, in the next couple of years a couple are bound to appear seemingly from out of nowhere....there is supposedly another seriously sharp lad at Surrey...can't remember his name though?

Just looked it up....Matt Dunn.
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Re: The Future of English Fast Bowling
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2013, 12:45:11 PM »

Forgetting about Tremlett (when fit). Hardly think the cupboard is bare when you have a fit Anderson, Finn, Broad, Tremlett and Bres for 3 bowling spots. Might be an issue at this moment as Tremlett, Bres are recovering for injuries but Onions will do a job in England. Brooks and Meaker possibly have another season to mature.

I think it's just a slow news day at cricinfo.

Still not convinced about Meaker, obviously he has wheels - but he's way too expensive, especially in the one day stuff  - and he's not as young as you think. He really needs to come on this season for me.
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Re: The Future of English Fast Bowling
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2013, 01:01:14 PM »

Meaker is a typical pacy young bowler.  When he's having a good day, he's unplayable, but when he's bad, he's very expensive.  Haven't seen much of Dunn but he is seriously sharp by all accounts.

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Re: The Future of English Fast Bowling
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2013, 01:36:01 PM »

don't need to be express to be a good bowler. Toby Roland Jones at Middx is a good prospect, as is Harris,
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Re: The Future of English Fast Bowling
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2013, 01:42:36 PM »

don't need to be express to be a good bowler. Toby Roland Jones at Middx is a good prospect, as is Harris,

Agree, Mills and Dunn spray it and go for plenty.
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Re: The Future of English Fast Bowling
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2013, 03:31:36 PM »

I don't think the cupboard is bare by any means; after all, whilst Anderson will probably only have threyears or so left in him, Broad is only in his mid 290s and Finn is younger than that.  Bresnan, Onions and Tremlett may not be long term options but they will all by around for at least a couple more years yet and - this is the point that Boycott's answer misses, though I suspect he  is aware of it himself - a lot can happen in that time.  As far as I can tell, Harris, Woakes and Roland-Jones are all though to be potentially good enough, and all have the time to put on the couple of mph they probably need to function at the top level, whilst there are plenty of young bowlers in the Shires who could make the necessary leap forward - Mills and Dunn have already been mentioned and I would add to that Moin Ashraf, who is raw but has wheels and swings it both ways, the better of the Overton lads at Somerset and two lads who have moved counties and might use that as a chance to kick on - Chris Jordan and Olly Hannon-Dalby.
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Re: The Future of English Fast Bowling
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2013, 04:01:12 PM »

Hannon Dalby is absolute pants I have to say

 But agree with everything else
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Re: The Future of English Fast Bowling
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2013, 06:08:41 PM »

I would hope that England (ECB) haven't been stupid enough to not concentrate on bring through the next few generations. Hopefully they are already eyeing up the guys in their early to mid teens that are prospects etc etc

Otherwise we might find we suddenly have no one coming through like the aussies now etc. same with batsmen!
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Re: The Future of English Fast Bowling
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2013, 06:10:22 PM »

He was pants last year, I'll grant you that.  But he is not perma-pants - he has the ability to get close to 90mph and a frame at 6'7" that will make the most of those clicks - he just needs some better coaching than he has had at Yorkshire because it pains me greatly to say that we missed the boat with him - noone making their FC debut at 18 should be quicker then than they are five years later!
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Re: The Future of English Fast Bowling
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2013, 08:06:14 PM »

The ECB might want to spend some time developing an attacking spinner.
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Re: The Future of English Fast Bowling
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2013, 09:59:44 PM »

Reece Topley is supposed to be pretty decent. Think one of the earlier posts reffered to him as lad from Essex. Seems we do have a few options to me.
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Re: The Future of English Fast Bowling
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2013, 10:06:19 PM »

What about that other young guy at Somerset, Gregory? Apparently he's an opening bat by trade but bowls 90+mph - surely he's worth looking at.
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Re: The Future of English Fast Bowling
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2013, 10:16:51 PM »

Reece Topley is supposed to be pretty decent. Think one of the earlier posts reffered to him as lad from Essex. Seems we do have a few options to me.

Topley or Mills, both promising
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