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[Steveo1000]

One for the bat makers (or anyone who knows about this stuff)

I have a Redback paradox that I would like reduced in weight by 2 or 3 oz, and have the weight mass shifted higher to create a higher middle and better pick up as part of the process.
Is this possible, if so how easy would it be for a skilled person to do so?

Thanks

[Jenko]

Matt at H4L is your man got a super heavy GN reduced by him and he did an amazing job definately recommend him anyway.

[Banksy]

The easiest way to reduce weight is by concaving, you keep the edges and spine then. You can move the centre of gravity further up the bat but you cant really move the middle, the middle is the middle, you can only take wood from around it. If you hit the bat with a mallet where you want the middle, and see how it pings, you will see how good the bat will play if you shift wood away from the existing middle.

[Steveo1000]

Good point about the middle.
Surely reducing the amount of wood towards the toe of the bat would have the effect of shifting the balance higher without additional concaving? But then what do I know!

[LEACHY48]

not necassarily true, but I do agree that the middle wouldnt be able to move much, however if the centre of mass was shifted upwards, the response from that part of the bat would increase.
 

The easiest way to reduce weight is by concaving, you keep the edges and spine then. You can move the centre of gravity further up the bat but you cant really move the middle, the middle is the middle, you can only take wood from around it. If you hit the bat with a mallet where you want the middle, and see how it pings, you will see how good the bat will play if you shift wood away from the existing middle.

[Krs]

Sorry for bringing this back, just have a few questions.

I got my Aldred and it weighs in at 2.13 (slightly over the requested weight), at first it seemed fine until I got my DS which weighs in at just over 2.9. The weight is really noticeable and was thinking of reducing the weight by 2oz. The bat has a light pick up so a 2.11 would be fine.

Now just to point out I have not used this in the nets yet, so I might not even need to do anything however just wanted a heads up on any disadvantages when reducing the weight. For example do you lose the 'ping', can you reduce the spine therefore not needing to increase the concaving?

I don't want to bug Paul yet until I am sure it needs to be done and that will only happen once in the nets.

Thanks

[uknsaunders]

2oz is manageable. It's almost an oz just by taking the scuff/stickers off and changing the grip to a chevron. I had 4oz taken off my H4L 666 and it seemed to go better than before, partly because the bat speed improved I'm sure.

[Krs]

2oz is manageable. It's almost an oz just by taking the scuff/stickers off and changing the grip to a chevron. I had 4oz taken off my H4L 666 and it seemed to go better than before, partly because the bat speed improved I'm sure.

That's good to hear. I think the bat originally weighed 2.11 naked, so I think the scuff and spiral have added a few grams to the weight.

Just need to test it out

[uknsaunders]

There are of course a few less orthodox ways of reducing weight:-

- Cut the end off the handle to make it a SSH, may marginally effect pickup and not advisable for taller players
- Whip off the toe guard, oil the toe if you are doing it
- Sand down the back of the bat, it may take some time by hand to lose 2oz!
- Stick it bat face up on the radiator to lose moisture and weight, possibly increase risk of breakage

I would advise you in the first instance to go back to Paul if you were considering the above! However for older bats or net bats where the professional work costs more than the bat then a bit of DIY may be worth the risk.

[Krs]

There are of course a few less orthodox ways of reducing weight:-

- Cut the end off the handle to make it a SSH, may marginally effect pickup and not advisable for taller players
- Whip off the toe guard, oil the toe if you are doing it
- Sand down the back of the bat, it may take some time by hand to lose 2oz!
- Stick it bat face up on the radiator to lose moisture and weight, possibly increase risk of breakage

I would advise you in the first instance to go back to Paul if you were considering the above! However for older bats or net bats where the professional work costs more than the bat then a bit of DIY may be worth the risk.

I will not be attempting anything myself lol

The bat is way to expensive for me to do anything. The handle was something I was considering as I am 5ft 8, however I am not noticing anything problems with the DS.

I think some weight will be taken from the back of the bat, a bit of shaving and I think it should be fine. Paul is a pretty amazing bat maker so will be able to work around it. I will see if I can do some throw downs over the weekend and see what the out come is.

The bat comes with no toe guard.

Thanks for your help.