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[Vic Nicholas]

He would be playing state cricket, but coming back to Australia to play Aus state cricket would mean he'd have to play in England as an overseas player which would jeopardize his spot at Middlesex which isn't what he wanted to do. Still lives in Australia and plays club cricket here every season. Averaged 54 opening the batting in Sydney First Grade with 3 hundreds this season just gone.

Still has a big Australian accent with lots of mates here, nice guy too.

Sammy Robson has done well in the last two club seasons and would definitely have been selected for NSW's last season - if he wanted to make himself available.

However, when he went to England four years ago, his club record was nothing to get excited about....and he wasn't going to leap frog Katich, Jacques and Hughes in the 2008/09 NSW line up. Watson headed to NSW soon after as well. So Robson was up against it at that time.

Nowadays, he is a better player and would be in contention for an Oz cap - if he played FC cricket in Oz.

Playing cricket professionally as "local" player rather than a foreign player is evidently more important to him. Fair enough too, because there are no guarantees that he will make it as a test player for either Australia or England, whereas he has a lucrative County career sown up for the next 12 years.

Who can blame him?

In his shoes, I would do the same.

[Manormanic]

Playing cricket professionally as "local" player rather than a foreign player is evidently more important to him. Fair enough too, because there are no guarantees that he will make it as a test player for either Australia or England, whereas he has a lucrative County career sown up for the next 12 years.

Who can blame him?

This is a very valid point - his game is not suited to the biff bash stuff particularly and there is a lot better living in playing Championship cricket here than there is in State cricket in Aus, so unless he considers himself a dyed in the wool Aussie, he's made a sensible decision.  After all, at 20, how can he really tell where he might have a better chance to play Test cricket in five or six years time!

[El Nino]

This is a very valid point - his game is not suited to the biff bash stuff particularly and there is a lot better living in playing Championship cricket here than there is in State cricket in Aus, so unless he considers himself a dyed in the wool Aussie, he's made a sensible decision.  After all, at 20, how can he really tell where he might have a better chance to play Test cricket in five or six years time!

He's nearly 24.

[Nickauger]

Carberry - a 32 year old with a FC average of 43?

Ahead of Chris Rogers? Average 50.16

We might be desperate, but we haven't bottomed out just yet.

Root? Yep, grant you that one. Will be a class player.

Weren't we talking about Sam Robson. If Rogers was English, he would have already got a lot of caps. I thought we were saying that Sam Robson will qualify next year, and he definitely wouldn't come in and replace Compton.

[Tail Ender]

Go read page 10.

[Nickauger]

Are you talking to me mate, if you are I suggest you go and read page 10. 'Chris Rogers has already said he wants to play for England'. Well Chris Rogers doesn't want to play for England otherwise he wouldn't have been picked for the Aussie side. I read that as [Chris Rogers has already said that Sam Robson wants to play for England] (being team mates and all).

[Tail Ender]

Vic Nicholas was replying to Buzz's claim that any one of the next in line for an England spot - "Joe Root, Michael Carberry and a few others" - would walk into the current Australian team, and refuting it by implying Rogers' first class average is considerably better than Carberry's and that he probably wouldn't get in ahead of him.

[Nickauger]

But its all irrelevant anyway because that wasn't the point that was being made anyway! Listen mate, lets not argue and derail the topic. Chris Rogers would probably be closer than 7th in line to open for England, however he won't get close to the team because he's committed to playing for Australia. Sam Robson would probably be closer than 7th in line to open for England on 'current' form, nothing else but won't because he hasn't qualified yet. Vic makes a good point, but I think the thread has got lost in translation a little bit, lets move on!

Edit: Apologies mate, I've re-re-read and see what you mean!

[Tail Ender]

All good, pal.

[procricket]

I suspect a close series I don't know why bar there openers and top order and a spinner there not much in it really

I rate the Australia attack I think potentially minus the spinner there not much in it.

Batting well that's e difference only currently clarke would get into England top order I suspect

[Manormanic]

He's nearly 24.

which means four years ago when he came over to play for Middlesex he was....erm...

[sgcricket]

the spinner is a massive advantage for england. but apart from that, both teams are not far apart. if KP comes in, then i would give england the advantage in batting

[Vic Nicholas]

The teams ARE far apart.

Australia will field an excellent three pronged pace attack that will cause England some problems.

But that is where it ends.

Even if by some chance England are (occasionally) dismissed for sub 200 scores, the Australian batting line up without the ballast of Hussey will be toppled for less.

I watch this series with no expectations.

[Vic Nicholas]

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/punter-would-never-say-never-to-ashes-comeback-20130529-2nam4.html

These articles will keep cropping up right until the first test.

[procricket]

The teams ARE far apart.

Australia will field an excellent three pronged pace attack that will cause England some problems.

But that is where it ends.

Even if by some chance England are (occasionally) dismissed for sub 200 scores, the Australian batting line up without the ballast of Hussey will be toppled for less.

I watch this series with no expectations.
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Vic lets be honest you do really I have never meet a Aussie who hasn't even with the turgid batting line up