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England ICC Trophy Provisional Squad
« on: April 04, 2013, 12:07:03 PM »

Bopara....Dernbach....Kieswetter....Patel shouldn't be there for me.



England's ICC Champions Trophy provisional 30-man squad:
1. Alastair Cook (Essex) Captain
2. James Anderson (Lancashire)
3. Gary Ballance (Yorkshire)
4. Jonny Bairstow (Yorkshire)
5. Ian Bell (Warwickshire)
6. Ravi Bopara (Essex)
7. Tim Bresnan (Yorkshire)
8. Danny Briggs (Hampshire)
9. Stuart Broad (Nottinghamshire)
10. Jos Buttler (Somerset)
11. Varun Chopra (Warwickshire)
12. Rikki Clarke (Warwickshire)
13. Jade Dernbach (Surrey)
14. Steven Finn (Middlesex)
15. Alex Hales (Nottinghamshire)
16. James Harris (Middlesex)
17. Craig Kieswetter (Somerset)
18. Stuart Meaker (Surrey)
19. Eoin Morgan (Middlesex)
20. Graham Onions (Durham)
21. Samit Patel (Nottinghamshire)
22. Kevin Pietersen (Surrey)
23. Joe Root (Yorkshire)
24. Graeme Swann (Nottinghamshire)
25. James Taylor (Nottinghamshire)
26. James Tredwell (Kent)
27. Jonathan Trott (Warwickshire)
28. Chris Wright (Warwickshire)
29. Luke Wright (Sussex)
30. Chris Woakes (Warwickshire)
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Re: England ICC Trophy Provisional Squad
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2013, 12:11:08 PM »

And still no Matt Prior......... ???

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Re: England ICC Trophy Provisional Squad
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2013, 12:16:49 PM »

And still no Matt Prior......... ???

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Just utterly crazy not to have someone like him in the squad, even if he doesn't play!
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Re: England ICC Trophy Provisional Squad
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2013, 12:28:21 PM »

It's getting even more mental with every game as he is gradually becoming our best player in the test format.

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Re: England ICC Trophy Provisional Squad
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2013, 12:43:41 PM »

while I am a massive Prior fan, where would you bat him in the ODI team? Give he won't be in the top 4 (cook, bell, Trott, KP) Morgan is at 5 and he doesn't have the range of shot at 6 that Jos Butler has.
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Re: England ICC Trophy Provisional Squad
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2013, 12:47:41 PM »

he could open the innings and get us off to a flying start
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Re: England ICC Trophy Provisional Squad
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2013, 01:02:00 PM »

he could open the innings and get us off to a flying start

Been there, tried that - massive fail. The reason he's so good in the Test arena is because he's free to focus on that and rest during T20s and ODIs. His Big Bash performances were pretty woeful.
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Re: England ICC Trophy Provisional Squad
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2013, 01:03:04 PM »

while I am a massive Prior fan, where would you bat him in the ODI team? Give he won't be in the top 4 (cook, bell, Trott, KP) Morgan is at 5 and he doesn't have the range of shot at 6 that Jos Butler has.

i agree im a massive prior fan, can't believe he isn't even in the squad if not the team. i really don't fancy Bell in any form of the game so i'd lose him and open with Trott, KP at 3, prior 4, Morgan 5, Buttler 6 or open with Prior and just lose Bell. its hard to see how arguably one of our best and most attacking test batsmen can't make the squad when Bopara and Keiswetter are in.
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Re: England ICC Trophy Provisional Squad
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2013, 01:11:28 PM »

Looks like it will be Warwickshire VS the rest of the world :-D
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Re: England ICC Trophy Provisional Squad
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2013, 01:16:12 PM »

Looks like it will be Warwickshire VS the rest of the world :-D

My thoughts exactly.
Kieswetter's had plenty of chances now, Prior should have taken his spot
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Re: England ICC Trophy Provisional Squad
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2013, 01:16:55 PM »

Been there, tried that - massive fail. The reason he's so good in the Test arena is because he's free to focus on that and rest during T20s and ODIs. His Big Bash performances were pretty woeful.

I agree with this man 100%
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Re: England ICC Trophy Provisional Squad
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2013, 02:17:07 PM »

As I stated elsewhere, prior's problem is that the range of shots he uses so effectively in the Test Arena are precisely the type of shots that can be pretty well dried up (comparative to the rate of scoring required) in the shorter format of the game; now, that MIGHT change slightly now thatteh fielding restrictions are different, but I don't see that he will ever anchor an innings as well as Cook or Trott, destroy from early as effectively as KP or close an innings as well as Morgan or Buttler, ergo he is best prolonging his Test career.

As regards the selected squad, its kind of what you might expect - it might have been good for the selectors to make a definitive statement regarding Ravi, Bedwetter, Fat Sammy and the most Expensive Bowler in History but....well...even though only one of the three should even have an arguable England future for me, who is there that they could have profitably brought in to those slots?   With the gloves? Foakes is a bit young, Davies tainted by the Surrey dressing room and Foster a bit old.  Stokes might have taken Ravi's slot but... the same kind of applies to Fat Sammy - there isn't a similar player out there.  Dernbach should have gone mind - even if the replacement was a left field one such as Shahzad, Roland-Jones or Moin Ashraf
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Re: England ICC Trophy Provisional Squad
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2013, 02:35:03 PM »

I agree with this man 100%

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Re: England ICC Trophy Provisional Squad
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2013, 04:54:37 PM »

Bopara....Dernbach....Kieswetter....Patel shouldn't be there for me.



England's ICC Champions Trophy provisional 30-man squad:
1. Alastair Cook (Essex) Captain
2. James Anderson (Lancashire)
3. Gary Ballance (Yorkshire)
4. Jonny Bairstow (Yorkshire)
5. Ian Bell (Warwickshire)
6. Ravi Bopara (Essex)
7. Tim Bresnan (Yorkshire)
8. Danny Briggs (Hampshire)
9. Stuart Broad (Nottinghamshire)
10. Jos Buttler (Somerset)
11. Varun Chopra (Warwickshire)
12. Rikki Clarke (Warwickshire)
13. Jade Dernbach (Surrey)
14. Steven Finn (Middlesex)
15. Alex Hales (Nottinghamshire)
16. James Harris (Middlesex)
17. Craig Kieswetter (Somerset)
18. Stuart Meaker (Surrey)
19. Eoin Morgan (Middlesex)
20. Graham Onions (Durham)
21. Samit Patel (Nottinghamshire)
22. Kevin Pietersen (Surrey)
23. Joe Root (Yorkshire)
24. Graeme Swann (Nottinghamshire)
25. James Taylor (Nottinghamshire)
26. James Tredwell (Kent)
27. Jonathan Trott (Warwickshire)
28. Chris Wright (Warwickshire)
29. Luke Wright (Sussex)
30. Chris Woakes (Warwickshire)

I agree with the majority of the players in that squad but feel people like Chopra, Chris Wright and Gary Ballance are only in there to fill the 30. I would like to see balance play though
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Re: England ICC Trophy Provisional Squad
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2013, 06:26:43 PM »

I agree with the majority of the players in that squad but feel people like Chopra, Chris Wright and Gary Ballance are only in there to fill the 30. I would like to see balance play though
Chopra is an odd one, as he has not got much of a one day record int he county game event.  Ballance and to a lesser extent Wright do have, though neither will realistically make the squad, which will be:

Cook
Bell
Trott/Root
Pietersen
Morgan
Buttler
Woakes/Bresnan
Broad
Swann/Tredwell
Finn
Anderson

plus either Wright or, more likely, Bairstow.
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