Topic: How to Avoid LBW's (Read 7674 times)

adi · « **on:** May 24, 2013, 03:50:10 AM »

Ok so here I�m with start of the season, have been practicing since December (indoor nets/bowling machine) worked hard on my technique, paying special attention to my weaknesses and tried to consolidate the strengths � season started with a bang � 50 runs (I�m an opener) and winning the match � BUT � I got LBW in that same match � then came the next match � I was feeling pretty good/confident and I was out in 2nd over � LBW again � and 3rd match this weekend � take a guess ? I was out 1st over � 2nd ball I faced � LBW � I�m not sure what�s happening here but there are few things I�ve noticed/analyzed:
� All 3 balls were full length � huge swinging deliveries
� New ball is swinging like anything � not the easiest thing to play
� I have a trigger movement along with a back lift
� I have a tendency to bend my knees slightly more than I�ve been advised

I am sure there are a lot of better players out there who can give me some useful tips/suggestions, I have 2 things in mind for the next games, I should use lighter bat & stand a bit up on the crease. I could be wrong but to negate the new swinging ball, I really need to stay on top of the ball. Any suggestion or piece of advice will be hugely appreciated

mad_abt_cricket · « **Reply #1 on:** May 24, 2013, 06:41:58 AM »

If you are getting out to the inswing deliveries it might be possible that your head is falling over to the off side also you must notice where your bat ends up while playing these deliveries.. is it towards midwicket or square leg?

I would suggest, take a guard to show all your three stumps and try playing the inswinging balls towards mid off, extra cover showing the full face of the bat.

Wickets-then-runs · « **Reply #2 on:** May 24, 2013, 07:14:28 AM »

As an opener, when the ball is swinging a lot, I bat outside my crease and make sure I push forward to try and cut down on the swing. Hopefully, it places enough doubt in the umpires mind. If the ball is swinging heaps and you are being given LBW, then you must be getting caught on the crease. Batting outside your crease can also help put the bowler off his length.
Good luck, hope it helps, mate!

Liam-SCCC · « **Reply #3 on:** May 24, 2013, 07:45:13 AM »

Don't let the ball hit your pads.

ajmw89 · « **Reply #4 on:** May 24, 2013, 07:53:36 AM »

Quote from: Liam-SCCC on May 24, 2013, 07:45:13 AM

Don't let the ball hit your pads.

Where's the like button!

In all seriousness, if the keeper's back but the bowling isn't too quick, stand outside your crease to help negate the swing.

Wooly · « **Reply #5 on:** May 24, 2013, 08:00:35 AM »

I've had the same problem with in swing bowlers. I now take off stump guard and bat a bit out of the crease. I make sure I get well forward so that if I'm struck I'm outside the line. In order to hit me in line the bowler needs to start the delivery straighter which means it should swing down leg. Of course that doesn't stop the umpys still triggering you sometimes but I'm sure the theory works.

GarrettJ · « **Reply #6 on:** May 24, 2013, 08:03:57 AM »

practice batting without any pads on ........... you will soon start using your bat!!

joeylough · « **Reply #7 on:** May 24, 2013, 01:23:38 PM »

Quote from: Wooly on May 24, 2013, 08:00:35 AM

I've had the same problem with in swing bowlers. I now take off stump guard and bat a bit out of the crease. I make sure I get well forward so that if I'm struck I'm outside the line. In order to hit me in line the bowler needs to start the delivery straighter which means it should swing down leg. Of course that doesn't stop the umpys still triggering you sometimes but I'm sure the theory works.

OFF STUMP, no wonder you are triggered if it hits, you are covering the lot.

If I was you I would just get that big lump of willow in your hand on the ball.

adi · « **Reply #8 on:** May 24, 2013, 01:31:04 PM »

Quote from: mad_abt_cricket on May 24, 2013, 06:41:58 AM

If you are getting out to the inswing deliveries it might be possible that your head is falling over to the off side also you must notice where your bat ends up while playing these deliveries.. is it towards midwicket or square leg?

I would suggest, take a guard to show all your three stumps and try playing the inswinging balls towards mid off, extra cover showing the full face of the bat.

i've been taking leg guard forever, very comfortable with that, i think i was either beaten by the pace or i couldn't read the length quick enough to adjust my foot, that's 1 of the reason i thought using a lighter bat should help

Buzz · « **Reply #9 on:** May 24, 2013, 01:52:42 PM »

for what it is worth, my guess is that you are doing your trigger movement to late, meaning you are on the move when the ball is delivered and this is then your head is getting outside the line of the ball, thus you miss the ball.

you could either ditch the trigger, stand still and keep your head still or trigger early and be still at the point the bowler is in his delivery stride.

It would also be likely that your trigger is moving you in front of middle, taking your eyes away from off stump and making you a big lbw candidate.

my suggestion is you film a net session and watch yourself bat...

buying a new bat is an unnecessary option... but one that as a forum member you are obliged to do ..!

lastmanstand · « **Reply #10 on:** May 24, 2013, 02:09:11 PM »

re: comments above,

Surely it depends what typ eof swing it is ie early or late.

Our 2 openers both swing it, one from the hand and the other mostly past the bat it seems.

Batting outside the crease and is effectiveness in negating swing would differ significantly in these 2 cases...

adi · « **Reply #11 on:** May 24, 2013, 02:17:00 PM »

Quote from: Buzz on May 24, 2013, 01:52:42 PM

for what it is worth, my guess is that you are doing your trigger movement to late, meaning you are on the move when the ball is delivered and this is then your head is getting outside the line of the ball, thus you miss the ball.

you could either ditch the trigger, stand still and keep your head still or trigger early and be still at the point the bowler is in his delivery stride.

It would also be likely that your trigger is moving you in front of middle, taking your eyes away from off stump and making you a big lbw candidate.

my suggestion is you film a net session and watch yourself bat...

buying a new bat is an unnecessary option... but one that as a forum member you are obliged to do ..!

i second to that, i had this feeling that i wasn't still when ball was delivered and it was confirmed by my batting partner at the other end, the reason i missed the length or was too late in shot, could be because of the swing in the air, i figured out i was kinda caught on the crease because i didn't play naturally on front foot, i was too busy trying to guess the swinging ball, it made me reluctant to come on front foot

i'm not gonna buy a new bat, i have few on my disposal, being said that, i prefer a medium-heavy bat but for this weekend i would try a lighter bat, just to see if it makes any difference in technique

i have recorded some footage playing against a bowling machine, i noticed 2 instances when i was LBW and both times my bat came a bit late alongwith very little foot movement, i can't imagine giving up trigger or backlift (i have been advised by quite a few good players) but whenever i have tried so in the nets, life was very hard for me specially a short-pitch ball, so i'll go to nets tonight and do some throw downs to get my mental inertia back, it's kinda getting on my nerves - LBW - i need my life back

OzCf · « **Reply #12 on:** June 03, 2013, 11:32:20 AM »

Hi,
It's way to hard to give any advise without seeing your technique.
However don't over think the issue, sounds like you have a fixation on the LBW form of dismissle.
When you made that first score of the season, and you were out in the middle making runs I'm sure the thought of LBW didn't enter your head.
Stay positive, watch the ball and make a good stride with your front leg. You must pick up the length quickly and play through the V.
Hope things turn around for you.
Remember form is temporary, class is permanent.
Regards,
Ozcf.

The Palmist · « **Reply #13 on:** June 03, 2013, 06:46:05 PM »

I stand out and when I am on non-strikers I talk to the umpire about how far I am standing from my crease. Worked in my favour last Saturday.

Dhiraj · « **Reply #14 on:** June 10, 2013, 09:54:08 AM »

Quote from: Buzz on May 24, 2013, 01:52:42 PM

for what it is worth, my guess is that you are doing your trigger movement to late, meaning you are on the move when the ball is delivered and this is then your head is getting outside the line of the ball, thus you miss the ball.

you could either ditch the trigger, stand still and keep your head still or trigger early and be still at the point the bowler is in his delivery stride.

It would also be likely that your trigger is moving you in front of middle, taking your eyes away from off stump and making you a big lbw candidate.

my suggestion is you film a net session and watch yourself bat...

buying a new bat is an unnecessary option... but one that as a forum member you are obliged to do ..!

This makes so much sense...I found this out in my game last week..falling over and too late a trigger movement has somehow has crept into my game...Next time it will be Chris Gayle style

..I am loving this forum...

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