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[Vitas Cricket]

Whilst I appreciate that we're talking about clefts as opposed to finished bats if you go into any big stockist of bats, Uzi, Serious Cricket etc and just have a browse you can nearly always spot a few bats that have been made with these clefts. Myself and the Hosk had a browse at Serious Cricket not so long ago and there were a couple of absolutely massive sticks in there at around 2.8. These were obviously made from low density clefts but they were priced identically to other bats of the same model and weight. They are out there if you're patient and prepared to shop around....they slip through the clutches of the contracted players and end up on the shelves so us mere mortals can buy them!

An example:

http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=23387.0

[trypewriter]

When you look at some of the pro's bats not all of them are huge, in fact I'd reckon that 'normal' looking bats outnumber the behemoths.

[procricket]

Without a doubt more than half the pro doesn't give a damm about size or grains as long as it feels right.

They tend to middle the ball more than us as well.

I have had about 6 genuine pro bats over the years only the Pakistan players bats I have had have been massive and the trott is big and light all round

[Tomm92]

Without a doubt more than half the pro doesn't give a damm about size or grains as long as it feels right.

They tend to middle the ball more than us as well.

I have had about 6 genuine pro bats over the years only the Pakistan players bats I have had have been massive and the trott is big and light all round

exactly, you don't need those 40+ mm edges if you're not wanting to hit it there! You want meat in the middle of the bat - where you're going to hit it.

[procricket]

But the other shoe in theory is coverage for us mere mortal who middle the ball 1 in 10.

The full all over profile for us leisure cricketers is much better

[trypewriter]

I know of a guy who had a county player's 'discard' and it hit like Joe Louis. On the other hand, another guy had a county player's discard and soon found out why he had let it go!

[PM7]

I reckon its more to do with the TV, look at Chopra and Porterfield on SKY now using bats that are magnified in width by the lenses. In reality they would be much smaller. Most cameras do add a few pounds.