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Having confidence on only few cricket strokes
« on: June 26, 2013, 05:59:37 AM »

Hi guys, there is a serious problem in our club with few members having confidence on only 3 to 4 strokes. Where ever the ball is been pitches, irrespective of the shot to be played they try to go for the one they think they are good with. This had costed us a loss yesterday. As the season started, there is only limited time for us to experiment. Out team is more of a bowling unit supported by few good batsmen, but if there is a collapse in the top, everyone fails. (We had defended 51 runs in a 40 over game) http://www.crichq.com/matches/45175 . Being a very new club, how can we train our players, mainly the tail enders and lower middle order to approach the innings? Kindly suggest. Any mantras for holding the temperament on is also in the list.
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Re: Having confidence on only few cricket strokes
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2013, 06:28:19 AM »

Sounds more like you need to train your top order batsmen to build an innings.

If your team is basically three batsmen and eight others with no batting experience then you are going to struggle.

Your best bet is to get everyone into nets and set the batters specific targets, i.e. "Bat for 20 mins and DO NOT GET OUT". Sadly practice is the only way that they will improve.
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Re: Having confidence on only few cricket strokes
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2013, 06:30:02 AM »

You need coaching from either a qualified coach in nets or try one of the cricket centres and make it like a mini tour/outing... something practical is always better than just the theory. Perhaps one of your top order batsmen can help in the short term but he needs the respect of the players he's coaching. Videoing and replays can help to identify mistakes but you need the correction too which can be recreated and worked on via a bowling machine..
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Re: Having confidence on only few cricket strokes
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2013, 06:45:17 AM »

Sounds more like you need to train your top order batsmen to build an innings.

If your team is basically three batsmen and eight others with no batting experience then you are going to struggle.

Your best bet is to get everyone into nets and set the batters specific targets, i.e. "Bat for 20 mins and DO NOT GET OUT". Sadly practice is the only way that they will improve.

 Thanks mate. We will approach as you said. Play for 30 balls, don't get out. As you said, we are such a team now. If one batsman (our VC) clicks then we get to score, else we are always in the lower target side. Sad part is none is having the confidence that they can score as most of them are playing their First competitive league. Better thing is we have proved well in a 40 over game but failed in T20. Do you think the mindset of the batsmen is also a main concern on failing?
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Re: Having confidence on only few cricket strokes
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2013, 06:50:25 AM »

You need coaching from either a qualified coach in nets or try one of the cricket centres and make it like a mini tour/outing... something practical is always better than just the theory. Perhaps one of your top order batsmen can help in the short term but he needs the respect of the players he's coaching. Videoing and replays can help to identify mistakes but you need the correction too which can be recreated and worked on via a bowling machine..

 Thanks for ur suggestions mate. We have almost 50% of the team players who are students. We are living away from our homeland, so money is also a concern for most of the players. The videoing part should work well and we have two good players who can train others well. Can you suggest any batting drills in specific we need to follow?
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Re: Having confidence on only few cricket strokes
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2013, 07:05:24 AM »

throw downs to get them playing confidently on the front foot.. using tennis balls is helpful as you can throw down from a shorter distance.. also good for practising sweeps.. lots of great youtube videos by top professional coaches (especially Australian ones) will give you drills and technique tips too..
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Re: Having confidence on only few cricket strokes
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2013, 07:19:02 AM »

throw downs to get them playing confidently on the front foot.. using tennis balls is helpful as you can throw down from a shorter distance.. also good for practising sweeps.. lots of great youtube videos by top professional coaches (especially Australian ones) will give you drills and technique tips too..
Hmm should do that. We hope we bounce back soon. Thanks mate for your suggestions.
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Re: Having confidence on only few cricket strokes
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2013, 07:25:39 AM »

Hi mate ,

  Some points to consider,

  1. I agree with Tim and praguetaz on the practice, there is no substitute for practicing and nets.
  2. As a team which consisting of part time cricketers I would say,
              a] In such a team the practice session are not serious. All the players want to do everything in a time frame of 2-4 hours, its not possible. You need to have a pathway to you practice sessions.
              b] The seriousness of practice session, after the first few hours or if the player has ended his part(Batting or bowling)he seems to be away from the team and are distracted which is demotivating for others.
              c] Throwdowns are mainly to improve the batting weakness of a player. I have seen many newbie players give throw-downs as if they want to get the batsman out, intead the throwdowns should be adjusted according to the specific batting drills.
              d] Temperament, this is the main and biggest problem for new palyers, they watch the Sixes hit in IPL etc.... and want to emulate the same. This debate will go one, if you ask a good cricketer he will always say Cricket is not only about hitting sixes, but getting singles, doubles, respecting the good deliveries, fours etc etc ....

 A few drills,

      1. As mentioned by Praguetaz, during throwdowns make the batsman play on his front foot, this will give him confidence. I bet the feeling you get after playing a perfect forward defense is more than hitting a six.
      2. if front foot is important, than back foot drill are important too. For these drill use tennis balls as they have more bounce.
      3. Learn to leave good deliveries.
      4. Give some drills of flighted deliveries and make the batsman move his feet, I bet that most of your player wont use their feet. This is very important while playing spinners. This also helps to build your temperament and teaches you to select your shot.
      5. The list  goes on and to end it, you cant substitute anyone or anything for a good passionate Coach.
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Re: Having confidence on only few cricket strokes
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2013, 07:34:45 AM »

Yes, I hope these points should be taken into highest consideration. Atleast there were a couple of wickets which we lost yesterday was due to lack of leaving away a good delivery. True as you said, many in the club don’t understand that throw downs are for batsmen to practice their strokes. Should mainly discuss this with the team.
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Re: Having confidence on only few cricket strokes
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2013, 11:01:51 PM »

Hi mate ,

  Some points to consider,

  1. I agree with Tim and praguetaz on the practice, there is no substitute for practicing and nets.
  2. As a team which consisting of part time cricketers I would say,
              a] In such a team the practice session are not serious. All the players want to do everything in a time frame of 2-4 hours, its not possible. You need to have a pathway to you practice sessions.
              b] The seriousness of practice session, after the first few hours or if the player has ended his part(Batting or bowling)he seems to be away from the team and are distracted which is demotivating for others.
              c] Throwdowns are mainly to improve the batting weakness of a player. I have seen many newbie players give throw-downs as if they want to get the batsman out, intead the throwdowns should be adjusted according to the specific batting drills.
              d] Temperament, this is the main and biggest problem for new palyers, they watch the Sixes hit in IPL etc.... and want to emulate the same. This debate will go one, if you ask a good cricketer he will always say Cricket is not only about hitting sixes, but getting singles, doubles, respecting the good deliveries, fours etc etc ....

 A few drills,

      1. As mentioned by Praguetaz, during throwdowns make the batsman play on his front foot, this will give him confidence. I bet the feeling you get after playing a perfect forward defense is more than hitting a six.
      2. if front foot is important, than back foot drill are important too. For these drill use tennis balls as they have more bounce.
      3. Learn to leave good deliveries.
      4. Give some drills of flighted deliveries and make the batsman move his feet, I bet that most of your player wont use their feet. This is very important while playing spinners. This also helps to build your temperament and teaches you to select your shot.
      5. The list  goes on and to end it, you cant substitute anyone or anything for a good passionate Coach.
In response to point d, I had the pleasure of seeing Ponting hit an unbeaten 100 a few years ago where not a single shot was played in the air.  Superb.
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Re: Having confidence on only few cricket strokes
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2013, 02:09:52 AM »

Hi guys, there is a serious problem in our club with few members having confidence on only 3 to 4 strokes. Where ever the ball is been pitches, irrespective of the shot to be played they try to go for the one they think they are good with. This had costed us a loss yesterday. As the season started, there is only limited time for us to experiment. Out team is more of a bowling unit supported by few good batsmen, but if there is a collapse in the top, everyone fails. (We had defended 51 runs in a 40 over game) http://www.crichq.com/matches/45175 . Being a very new club, how can we train our players, mainly the tail enders and lower middle order to approach the innings? Kindly suggest. Any mantras for holding the temperament on is also in the list.
A lot of good batting coaches will tell you that if you have two to three attacking shots you score off played in an appropriate manner or circumstance you then defend the rest. Attack your strengths defend your weaknesses!!
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Re: Having confidence on only few cricket strokes
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2013, 05:59:34 AM »

Stevat and John, these points you mentioned are very much useful. I will convey them to the team and try to make them confident.
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