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Re: considered thoughts on selling on the forum please...
« Reply #30 on: July 02, 2013, 11:25:30 AM »

1) Letting Admin govern can cause issues as Admins can also disagree with each other. So avoid these situations

first rule of being an admin is that you have to agree with the concensus of admins (not just what I think, honest, cough)
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Re: considered thoughts on selling on the forum please...
« Reply #31 on: July 02, 2013, 11:28:34 AM »

Biggest problem Admins have is we have lives to lead. Selling issues whether it be selling fake stickers, disputes, advertising without sponsorship, etc, take up a large proportion of our time on the forum. I think any method that requires more admin interaction, instead of less probably isn't the way to go. Ps I know that was not aimed at me

My biggest concerns are trying to understand why somebody needs to sell more than a couple of times a year. Surely if you buy to use the kit then it's more of a one off sale or a season end sale? Occasionally you get something that doesn't fit but some of the constant trading from members concerns me. Noted one guy has opened 13 sale topics since Jan. I'm also concerned about the amount of new or nearly new kit coming onto the forum. You spend £150-200 and then immediately sell it? Again, I can't quite get my head around it.

Some people just like buying kit but sometimes these things need to be reigned in. Ebay is the appropriate marketplace if you want to trade kit.

Nick I sell a shed load of kit on here and buy a fair amount too this may come very defensive but it is not intended but I sell on here at vastly discounted prices then I paid for them due to me being what I call a trier of equipment so sell.

I think both contributing to experience with kit and also trading kit is great I enjoy it on here as well as talking equipment but I can say I have never sold for profit and as this is the only forum I use really.

I will be honest I could get shed loads of discounted equipment and flog on here but I only buy kit and sell kit for personal use.

I think the certain power sellers are obvious from a mile away and these people should be watched I think there should be a ratio quota system of allowed sales per month


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Re: considered thoughts on selling on the forum please...
« Reply #32 on: July 02, 2013, 11:31:45 AM »

Maybe along the lines of what Buzz said but instead of lumbering more on Admins have a couple of sales moderators. Plenty of long standing trustworthy guys on here who would be willing to trial this idea I'm sure
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Re: considered thoughts on selling on the forum please...
« Reply #33 on: July 02, 2013, 11:33:05 AM »

It not hard to see the power sellers though surely maybe I'm reading into it too much.

Hell one is trying it on currently  :D
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Re: considered thoughts on selling on the forum please...
« Reply #34 on: July 02, 2013, 11:34:48 AM »

I've looked at members views so far and compiled a list:-

1. Up Post Count to 200 - nobody is going to race to that without getting their post count reset
2. 1 Sell Topic per quarter or similar? - 4 a year should be adequate for most people
3. Pre-Approve Sales topics - assuming less topics are active and we can handle the workload as admins, could be run alongside charging a fixed %
4. Want to sell more - pay for premium membership

Any extra monies go into running comps and or subsidising a sponsor offer
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Re: considered thoughts on selling on the forum please...
« Reply #35 on: July 02, 2013, 11:37:38 AM »

Yeah a combination of the four would work pretty well I think.
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Re: considered thoughts on selling on the forum please...
« Reply #36 on: July 02, 2013, 11:40:51 AM »

Allow people 1 sale or refurbishment every quarter and if they want more than have to pay a small charge and within the one sale it is one item...

I think that is fair as sponsor pay to sell equipment so 4 sales a year I guess is reasonable even if it going to cost me a bit but fair is fair
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Re: considered thoughts on selling on the forum please...
« Reply #37 on: July 02, 2013, 11:51:05 AM »

I'm definitely a fan of upping the post count to 200, I think it will make it much easier to pull a fast one! However, leave the board open to view and reply at 50 posts, so people can still buy from it. Pre-approving topics would be a good idea too, although I don't think charging a price up front is the way to go unless you can get a refund if it doesn't sell (which is far too much effort for the admin team)
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Re: considered thoughts on selling on the forum please...
« Reply #38 on: July 02, 2013, 11:53:06 AM »

Allow people 1 sale or refurbishment every quarter and if they want more than have to pay a small charge and within the one sale it is one item...

I think that is fair as sponsor pay to sell equipment so 4 sales a year I guess is reasonable even if it going to cost me a bit but fair is fair


I disagree with one item per sale, when come winter people fancy changing a bit of kit and selling some older stuff or garb they haven't gotten on with. Perhaps a limit of 4 or 5 items per 1 post?
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Re: considered thoughts on selling on the forum please...
« Reply #39 on: July 02, 2013, 11:56:29 AM »

Limit sales is fair enough, but how would it be managed in regards swaps?

For instance, if I put a bat up for sale which is bought by PeteHosk, then Buzz puts up an Aldred.  Am I entitled to PM him with an offer to swap a different bat I have as I have sold my first?  If not, how would this be managed?

I think the sale board is ok.  Perhaps is there a way for them not to come up in the "unread posts since last visit" section or in the "recent posts" box.  That way people who are looking for kit will have to manually open the sale board periodically to look at them.

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Re: considered thoughts on selling on the forum please...
« Reply #40 on: July 02, 2013, 11:59:42 AM »

I think you should be allowed one sales topic per quarter. but no limit to how many items are sold in that topic. But continuous bumping shouldn't be allowed.
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Re: considered thoughts on selling on the forum please...
« Reply #41 on: July 02, 2013, 12:23:38 PM »

I think you should be allowed one sales topic per quarter. but no limit to how many items are sold in that topic. But continuous bumping shouldn't be allowed.
And bumping would include a sales topic having new items added to it. In addition, sales topics could be locked after a set period of time if they remain open longer than say, three weeks?
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Re: considered thoughts on selling on the forum please...
« Reply #42 on: July 02, 2013, 12:30:28 PM »

And bumping would include a sales topic having new items added to it. In addition, sales topics could be locked after a set period of time if they remain open longer than say, three weeks?

I think a deadline for sales open is the way forward.

So if you have the following

1 sale per quarter.
No bumps allowed
Deleted after 3 weeks
If they wish to raise the awareness of the post perhaps then they can pay a fee via paypal to CBF kitty? this will result in a stickied topic. So a premium sale
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Re: considered thoughts on selling on the forum please...
« Reply #43 on: July 02, 2013, 12:32:21 PM »

It not hard to see the power sellers though surely maybe I'm reading into it too much.

Hell one is trying it on currently  :D

Saw that too Dave.

One member has opened up 17 since Jan, beating the 13 Nick counted! The 'bumping' is incredibly annoying, especially when they are usually a couple of hours apart

I am for those 4 points personally, especially the 200 post count. I know the mods do a great job, but it's like a cheap ebay these days. Half the gear up for sale is toilet as well! Not the same standard it was, although you do get some belters!
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Re: considered thoughts on selling on the forum please...
« Reply #44 on: July 02, 2013, 12:48:05 PM »

I wouldn't tinker too much. Individuals selling on here has been a big part of this forums success, and CSF's success beforehand. CSF lost it's following when they tried to introduce fees.

Perhaps a "donation" option for sellers, when they post a topic. Of which the money goes straight to the active admin team.
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