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piethepker

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Re: considered thoughts on selling on the forum please...
« Reply #45 on: July 02, 2013, 12:50:15 PM »

You could charge a set fee on each sale

EG. 5 dollars per sale of gloves?

Would be hard to implement though
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Re: considered thoughts on selling on the forum please...
« Reply #46 on: July 02, 2013, 12:51:09 PM »

I have never sold anything on this forum but looks like swap/sale area is already on a good path. Can't see the section without logging in and also if you have made quality 50 posts. Majority I see - are buying and selling to just try different things. This forum makes the whole thing easier for such people. Maybe increase the amount of posts needed to 200 before u can trade.

Not to mention sale section brings a lot of equipment pics, usage details etc as well which contributes to the general forum knowledge. We are all adults and understand the risks of buying unseen stuff from unknown people. If paid through paypal as a normal payment there is v low risk anyways. Looking at the past record - 1 or 2 disputes for so many trades is not bad either.

People who want to sell like crazy will only be encouraged if a fee is applied. It becomes more of a right to sell if a fee has been paid. I hope I am making sense.

Forum Sponsors shouldn't be too fussed....2nd hand buyers or heavy bargains market is comp different to their target segment. Those buyers would have never bought new stuff anyways. It's not a "lost" sale etc.

Can we make the current setup a bit more tougher-
a) more startup posts to qualify
b) some sort of reminder or warning to someone selling too much new stuff etc. this is because its diff on a case to case basis.
Someone selling a lot of their old kit e.g. Try new kit out types are comp different to someone selling for the sake of selling....
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Re: considered thoughts on selling on the forum please...
« Reply #47 on: July 02, 2013, 01:04:53 PM »

Btw a record number of people currently viewing this topic!
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Re: considered thoughts on selling on the forum please...
« Reply #48 on: July 02, 2013, 01:13:39 PM »

Charging a fee for selling will only make the forum worse.

Whatever fee you charge will just be added on to top of the wanted price for the goods. So In effect the "buyer" will be paying the fee. Which means they are no longer getting bargains.


Driving away people that merely want to sell, will only mean the loyal members of the forum get less bargains and equipment to choose from.
The sellers will happily go tug tree, or eBay on a insertion free weekend. Which will probably then end up linked on this site anyway.


Not everyone that comes to sell is a bad unwanted person. Some come here to get rid of equipment, but then get into the content/banter/conversations and stay for good.
If they cant sell, you risk losing potential great members,



Plus, and this is the biggie, the for sale section is quiet on this forum. Of the forums attend this is the least active for sale section.
Compare it to the one I run(car forum so not a rival) this is majorlydead.
We have the marketplace divided int 7sectioms so you can find what you want easily.
Yet if you put an add on at 7.30 before work, when you get home at 5.30 your ad will be on page 3 atleast.
Do we charge? Nope. You just need 250 posts before you sell. And when you've had to make 250 meaningful posts, you are part of the community, and tend not to leave.





Forum sponsors could be more active, theres plenty of threads in there sections they haven't commented on, and plenty of questions in there, they haven't answered.
Granted not every question on a forum leads to a sale, but why risk ignoring the one that might?
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Re: considered thoughts on selling on the forum please...
« Reply #49 on: July 02, 2013, 01:19:09 PM »

what about a system where the more stuff you sell the more fees you pay to CBF.

for example

under 5 items in the year - £nothing

between 6 and 10 items - £5 fee for each item

between 11 and 20 items - £10 fee for each item

and so on...

I also think the 200 posts mark should be implemeted. It would encourage people to generate good quality chatter instead of a quick 20 posts to get them to the holy grail. Then by the time they can sell thay have committed to the forum for longer than a week.

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Re: considered thoughts on selling on the forum please...
« Reply #50 on: July 02, 2013, 01:22:54 PM »

FYI - my personal preference is for all for sale items to be pre-vetted by the Admin team who can then take a simple approach of declining people who are breaching the spirit of the forum or the selling rules - it would also limit the admin time needed.

The downside is that for sale items may take a little longer to get posted.

I do like this idea, this would stop posts that state the picture will be added when I get home etc. Would also stop the admins having the find all new posts.
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Re: considered thoughts on selling on the forum please...
« Reply #51 on: July 02, 2013, 01:51:22 PM »

Lots of discussion here and some very good points. My 2 cents...

we constantly hear that this not ebay and dont want it turning into ebay. Introducing fees is turning it into ebay, and tiered fee structure would be a nightmare to track.

I agree with 4 - 6 sales thread per year.
List as many items as you want but must be all done in one post, can't keep adding stuff to sell.
Have the donation option like Tom suggested that is going only to admins to do whatever they want with it (eat, drink, smoke, contests. Its their reward for putting in time)
Original poster must only be allowed to answer questions in their own for sale thread once its active. No posts with bump etc.
Lock'em up after 3 weeks if not all sold
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Re: considered thoughts on selling on the forum please...
« Reply #52 on: July 02, 2013, 02:01:37 PM »

I'll also add, I'm not a fan of charging for access to sell as there are a number of reasons why this becomes problematic. I won't go into them in great detail.
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Re: considered thoughts on selling on the forum please...
« Reply #53 on: July 02, 2013, 02:04:20 PM »

I reckon you should be able to view the for sale topics and buy gear after the current 50 posts, but selling and asking for items should be left until you reach 200-250 posts.

As said previously, no more than 4-6 sales threads a year, and no adding to it/bumping.  Thread should be locked after a couple of weeks if stuff is unsold.

I like the idea of a voluntary donation from your sales that goes to the admins.  They do a butt load of work and don't really get anything from it other than our everlasting gratitude.

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Re: considered thoughts on selling on the forum please...
« Reply #54 on: July 02, 2013, 02:23:34 PM »

What I see here is a bit of vicious circle! The forum sponsors pay to advertise here and this keeps the forum going. This does in turn, by the very nature of advertising, mean that the forum is bombarded by adverts and threads dedicated to the forum sponsors selling their goods. It doesn't seem quite right then to suggest that it's purely the For Sale thread that is contributing to the forum becoming nothing more than a bring and buy sale! If you really want to make this forum more about cricket and less about buying and selling then you need to change the whole model not just a certain area of it.

What you do and how is another question. I haven't bought or sold much stuff on here but I do find it a very useful resource and I wouldn't want to see it go but some stronger restrictions wouldn't go amiss, if only to protect forum members from some of the shady characters this forum has attracted in the past. Whatever is decided it needs to be easy to administer. It needs to be very simple to understand and it needs to leave no one in any doubt about what is acceptable and what isn't. No grey areas please!  :D
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Re: considered thoughts on selling on the forum please...
« Reply #55 on: July 02, 2013, 05:26:30 PM »

Evening guys,

Just thought I would add my views as I am a big user of the for sale section in both buying and selling.

Firstly the for sale section does throw up some great bargains. I agree a lot with pro cricket in his earlier statement. I have starred a few sale sections in the recent months purely because of this forum. The forum has shown me items and brands I would have struggled to locate outside of this forum. I am also a self confessed bat nerd and find the forum a great place to offer great deals on items I bought out of interest or need to sell an item to fund a new interest. I try not to bump to much and can understand how and why this would annoying to te forum.

In terms of what to do I do not think charging is the way foward, that will just become like ebay and cause more trouble. I do think raising the posts is the only real option open to the admin team and think around the 250 mark is an ideal number this will make it impossible for people to race to that number.
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Re: considered thoughts on selling on the forum please...
« Reply #56 on: July 02, 2013, 05:34:00 PM »

I reckon you should be able to view the for sale topics and buy gear after the current 50 posts, but selling and asking for items should be left until you reach 200-250 posts.

This sounds like a good idea to me , as I don't think we have anything wrong with people buying too much (well ,  maybe some of you  :-[) , and to make 200-250 posts on the forum , you've gotta be pretty dedicated and interested in the subject (1 more post for my 250  ;)).
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Re: considered thoughts on selling on the forum please...
« Reply #57 on: July 02, 2013, 05:58:23 PM »

I haven't been here much long but will throw in my 2 cents anyway since I had admins thinking I was one of the "race to 50 candidates" and got my count reset. In my defence I wasn't even aware of a for sale section and when it magically appeared I just added my bat [which was already on ebay at that time] here as well.

I am yet to sell anything successfully here but have already indulged in few purchases. New members are good thing and who is going to buy your stuff if you don't allow new members to view for sale section. 50 is a good enough threshold in my opinion. Also allowing people to buy but not sell is exploitation in my eyes and a tad bit unfair.

So you can charge a nominal advertising fee irrespective of whether the item sells or not. Or just close the for sale section as I find it very tempting and the purchases are becoming increasing difficult to hide from Mrs. :-)
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Re: considered thoughts on selling on the forum please...
« Reply #58 on: July 02, 2013, 06:15:11 PM »

i dont see a problem with it?

this for sale section is tiny compared with what im used to...

i mainly use car forums and there are sections for every bit of car the cars them self etc...

all thats asked is you have 250 posts and have your username in every photo
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Re: considered thoughts on selling on the forum please...
« Reply #59 on: August 16, 2013, 06:13:17 PM »

Why are new members not allowed to view the buy/sell forum ?

The buy/sell forum is one of the things that compelled me to register, otherwise I was content being a guest. It'll probably take me 5 years to reach 300 posts, by that time, my cricket career will be virtually over and the buy/sell forum will be useless to me.

I probably won't even buy or sell any product, but it makes for interesting reading, seeing what others are buying or selling.
 
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