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[Buzz]

Oh please!!!

You have neglected the most critical information here....BOTH McGrath AND Warne missed that test due to injury.

So it was hardly Australia's "peak" attack mate.

Unless you have a higher regard for Andy Bichel and Brett Lee than we ever had?

bar humbug Vic, i was drunk and it was hot and Vaughan was magnificent! you are letting facts get in the way

While you are right - I should have picked one of the other 150's he made in that series - Brett Lee bowled magnificently in that test.

Richard Dawson and Steve Harmison did not!!

[Vic Nicholas]

bar humbug Vic, i was drunk and it was hot and Vaughan was magnificent! you are letting facts get in the way

While you are right - I should have picked one of the other 150's he made in that series - Brett Lee bowled magnificently in that test.

Richard Dawson and Steve Harmison did not!!

Hahaha!

His 150 odd against the full attack early in the series was masterful - on that, there is no dispute!

[MD2812]

Missed it by a mile

Question: why isn't hot spot showing up like it used to? Maybe they have found something to use on the edges so it doesn't show up as much? Any ideas

http://www.espncricinfo.com/the-ashes-2013/content/current/story/651755.html

Although the article is more on Haddin thinks DRS should be with the umpires rather than players. (I'm not sure how that would work, if they have a decision whether they think it's out or to go upstairs then they will go upstairs all the time, might as well take them off the field)

But Hadding admits to hitting it.

I also did hear once a rumour that players put vaseline on the edge of their bat to try trick hotspot, not sure if there is truth in it or not.

[Kulli]

I also did hear once a rumour that players put vaseline on the edge of their bat to try trick hotspot, not sure if there is truth in it or not.

Might regret that one when they get an inside edge onto their pad and given out lbw

[Vic Nicholas]

Might regret that one when they get an inside edge onto their pad and given out lbw

I would suggest they would only put it on the outside edge of their bats....inside edges rarely go through to the keeper, mostly into pad, or onto stumps anyway.

Outside edges though...

[Kulli]

I would suggest they would only put it on the outside edge of their bats....inside edges rarely go through to the keeper, mostly into pad, or onto stumps anyway.

Outside edges though...

Try telling that to Brad

I get your point though, you'd hope umpires check for things like this.

[Vic Nicholas]

This has blown up...Mickey says some interesting things about Shane Watson:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/cricket/mickey-arthur-claims-bitter-faction-led-to-rift-between-michael-clarke-and-shane-watson/story-fni2usfi-1226680358771

[Wedge2408]

This has blown up...Mickey says some interesting things about Shane Watson:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/cricket/mickey-arthur-claims-bitter-faction-led-to-rift-between-michael-clarke-and-shane-watson/story-fni2usfi-1226680358771

Its nothing that hasn't been speculated on before, but it is quite interesting to hear it coming from Mickey Arthur. It is possible that some of this is exaggerated due to his bitterness over his sacking, but the fact that the idea that Clarke and Watson don't get along has popped up a few times since Clarke took over as captain means it must hold some weight. As for Watson dobbing in Warner, well I figured that he had to have played a role considering how bitter he was over the homework gate situation..

[ppccopener]

i'm sure there's something in the watson/clarke dont get along story....
the british press like that sort of thing too thou.
i've heard Watson is not such one for strict handing-in-homework that would result in missing a test...but alledgedlly when warner threw a punch the Aussies tried to cover it up...

you can imagine how you would feel if you were in that team...one is borderline 'not what the team wants' the other is downright stupid and could of had warner sent home.

i would also question Hussey's retirement, although he denies it,maybe him and clarke did not see eye to eye...

clarke is a good captain for sure, but strikes me as a high and mighty attitute now he is skipper which was'nt there before...
he did miss the team song to take his bird out-alledgedly

[Buzz]

that miss the team song for a bird thing is massively over blown - it was after 11pm or something, not unreasonable!

[The_Bird]

Have you seen his bird?

No Brainer...

[Vic Nicholas]

I mentioned on here during the India series that Watson was not well liked within the squad.

I was poo pooed and told it was actually Clarke who was not liked.

Make no mistake, Watson is not on practically anyone's Christmas card list.

As soon as he moved to NSW to play Shield cricket, Khawaja and Hughes both pissed off elsewhere, quick.

He might have one or two mates, but no more than that.

Clarke believes in reintroducing discipline and sheer hard work to catch up to the best...Watson, does not.

Haddin was specifically brought back to avoid Watto being VC during the Ashes.

And you can imagine how Warner feels about Watto - can't you?

[smokem]

Have you seen his bird?

No Brains...

[smokem]

I mentioned on here during the India series that Watson was not well liked within the squad.

I was poo pooed and told it was actually Clarke who was not liked.

Make no mistake, Watson is not on practically anyone's Christmas card list.

As soon as he moved to NSW to play Shield cricket, Khawaja and Hughes both pissed off elsewhere, quick.

He might have one or two mates, but no more than that.

Clarke believes in reintroducing discipline and sheer hard work to catch up to the best...Watson, does not.

Haddin was specifically brought back to avoid Watto being VC during the Ashes.

And you can imagine how Warner feels about Watto - can't you?

Maybe that's why Clarke got Watto to bowl all those overs in the 2nd innings. Get him injured and get Warner back in to open!

[The_Bird]

No Brains...

I doubt that that's high on Micheal 'Louis Vuitton make my cricket bag' Clarke's agenda when it comes to women.