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[RoCo Da Pixie]

I think the third umpires need to be told to reverse the on field decision. If there is no hot spot or signs of an edge, Then how can it be given out still? It has happened far too many times in this series for both Aus & Eng

[Twelfth Man]

I'm not sure as to how that is out in the way that there's nothing on hot spot. Having said that, snicko (Umpires don't use it) showed there was a noise of sorts!

[Jenko]

I wouldnt say clearly not out - perhaps we are relying on the technology way too much. Prior to DRS/Hotspot days, you would watch that, hear the noise, and say its out every day of the week.

[coady123]

I don't think they should go on noise as its not always conclusive and can be many things which make the noise

[tate035]

Now it is going to get interesting. Can't see Bairstow dropping anchor so he will give a chance. Could be up to RAIN to save the game.

[Jenko]

I don't think they should go on noise as its not always conclusive and can be many things which make the noise

So how do you give people out in club cricket? How did they give people out for faint edges prior to DRS/hot Spot???

[coady123]

So how do you give people out in club cricket? How did they give people out for faint edges prior to DRS/hot Spot???

I understand it in club cricket been given out on noise  but now that they have the technology for international cricket I don't think they should go down the route of just noise been enough evidence to give someone out

[tate035]

I wouldnt say clearly not out - perhaps we are relying on the technology way too much. Prior to DRS/Hotspot days, you would watch that, hear the noise, and say its out every day of the week.

You can't say that as many were given out by umpires going off sound before DRS became legal. If you play cricket and field close in you would have heard many a sound that you thought was a nick when infact it was a pad, a shoe scrapping the ground, etc. Its time for snicko. You will still get mistakes but if bat no where near anything and snicko jumps when ball goes past bat then probably out.

[Vic Nicholas]

Snicko seemed to confirm an edge...but nothing on hot spot?

[coady123]

You can't say that as many were given out by umpires going off sound before DRS became legal. If you play cricket and field close in you would have heard many a sound that you thought was a nick when infact it was a pad, a shoe scrapping the ground, etc. Its time for snicko. You will still get mistakes but if bat no where near anything and snicko jumps when ball goes past bat then probably out.

yeah I believe they should use it its just sometimes its not bat it can be pad which shows if you go off noise you need a hot spot to support it

[Jenko]

Thats what Im getting at though - if there was a noise, no deflection, and bat and pad or whatever are very close together, possibly not out. When the bat is hung out, off the ground, away from the body, and there is a noise precisely as it goes past the edge - surely thats out.

[Buzz]

I understand it in club cricket been given out on noise  but now that they have the technology for international cricket I don't think they should go down the route of just noise been enough evidence to give someone out

This is rubbish.

the Umpire gave the batsman out to a fine nick. The only reason that was referred is because hotspot is not really working.
Ian Bell should have been out for 0 in the first innings here - KP was out here as was Agar in the last game etc.

All the commentators thought it was out too.

I agree with

Thats what Im getting at though - if there was a noise, no deflection, and bat and pad or whatever are very close together, possibly not out. When the bat is hung out, off the ground, away from the body, and there is a noise precisely as it goes past the edge - surely thats out.

if the ball hits the edge of the bat it won't always deviate.

[tate035]

This is rubbish.

the Umpire gave the batsman out to a fine nick. The only reason that was referred is because hotspot is not really working.
Ian Bell should have been out for 0 in the first innings here - KP was out here as was Agar in the last game etc.

All the commentators thought it was out too.

I wasn't saying it wasn't out. All I want is consistency. Things will change when 3rd umpires have there own technology available in there own little room to judge on incidents the second it happens. Hopefully this will start 2014.

[tate035]

Thats what Im getting at though - if there was a noise, no deflection, and bat and pad or whatever are very close together, possibly not out. When the bat is hung out, off the ground, away from the body, and there is a noise precisely as it goes past the edge - surely thats out.

Sorry, I read it the wrong way.  What you have put is for me the way forward.

[tate035]

Looking good for England. However didn't we bowl Sri Lanka out in 30 overs last year?