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Re: Machine made versus Handmade
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2013, 12:38:01 PM »

for me has to be handmade.
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Re: Machine made versus Handmade
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2013, 12:41:34 PM »

for me has to be handmade.

countycricketplayer don't you use Woodstock bats?
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Re: Machine made versus Handmade
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2013, 01:39:18 PM »

Sorry Matt don't agree with the last part go to b3 they pay as much attention and measure many things about a cleft as much as any podshaver I have seen mate


It funny and often gets left out of the reality but most people hold TK made bats in high esteem when reality is 99 per cent are Cnc made but the where  going down pressing again
Which is why to me, pressing is the most important process of bat making, so the handmade v cnc made question is irrelevant.

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Re: Machine made versus Handmade
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2013, 01:52:53 PM »

It depends on what's being judged - I'm purely going on feel, balance and how well made the bat is, not exactly the pressing even though that's the main aspect on how the bat performs along with the the willow distribution
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Re: Machine made versus Handmade
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2013, 01:57:05 PM »

It depends on what's being judged - I'm purely going on feel, balance and how well made the bat is, not exactly the pressing even though that's the main aspect on how the bat performs along with the the willow distribution

Bar the well made of a bat put a blindfold on you would know the difference and 99 per cent can not tell the difference between hand and machine but I agree some of the copy lathe versions are not great i agree there and they tend to just ramp and go
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Re: Machine made versus Handmade
« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2013, 02:15:00 PM »

Bar the well made of a bat put a blindfold on you would know the difference and 99 per cent can not tell the difference between hand and machine but I agree some of the copy lathe versions are not great i agree there and they tend to just ramp and go

Again, it's hard to tell from one off bats - as the benefits of machine made bats are that they can be easily mass made of which you could cherry pick the best one(s). I guess what I'm trying to get at, is I think a skilled bat maker could do more with a poor raw cleft to make the balance feel good etc. I think you can tell the difference between handmade/machine made bats by looking at them - machine made bats are much more precise, however I agree it's hard to tell if blind folded as you would hope there is a lot of skill and research that goes into machine making cricket bats - or at least a lot of trial and error.
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Re: Machine made versus Handmade
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2013, 04:03:50 PM »

Again, it's hard to tell from one off bats - as the benefits of machine made bats are that they can be easily mass made of which you could cherry pick the best one(s). I guess what I'm trying to get at, is I think a skilled bat maker could do more with a poor raw cleft to make the balance feel good etc. I think you can tell the difference between handmade/machine made bats by looking at them - machine made bats are much more precise, however I agree it's hard to tell if blind folded as you would hope there is a lot of skill and research that goes into machine making cricket bats - or at least a lot of trial and error.

Not all machine-made bats are that precise! I hear CNC machines need recalibrating pretty often, I've got one which has an edge quite a bit bigger than the other! The only thing I feel affects the performance of a bat other than the willow picked is the pressing. I would use bats made by either machine or handmade, but I do like the idea of going to B3 for example, and saying I want a bat with precisely these measurements. I think that there's room in my heart for both, as long as they perform well. ;)
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Re: Machine made versus Handmade
« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2013, 10:22:12 AM »

I personally love the idea that some chap has locked himself in a workshop and produced a cricket bat from a chunk of willow using some tools. I think the skill involved is awesome, would love to be able to do it. I also think more 'love and pride' would go into it.

With a CNC, it's just pop the specs into a computer and boom, it's done.

That's the same way I think about hand made vs CNC
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Re: Machine made versus Handmade
« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2013, 10:24:56 AM »

That's the same way I think about hand made vs CNC


Go and watch your machine made bat get made from cleft to finished bat you will be very surprised with what you see

It not as simple as people make out not on the precise custom made bats I have seen
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Re: Machine made versus Handmade
« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2013, 09:53:58 PM »

If people think its as easy as pop specs in and a bat comes out you do not know cnc machining as the programming is a fair task in its self and can be 4 hours or 3 days depending on how you do it
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