Topic: Harrow vs short handle.... (Read 33420 times)

yvk3103 · « **Reply #45 on:** October 18, 2013, 02:58:20 PM »

The reason for the sharp difference in price between a harrow/academy/small mens is primarily due to the fact that these bats are made from the smaller trunks (hence most of these nats have a very tight grain structure).

I have been told this by GN Australia and 2 big retailers in Australia.

I had a GN XXVI in Small Mens and apart fort he handle thickness, I couldn't spot any other difference with the naked eye. There are few millimetres shaved off if you measure, but nothing significant.

For the price difference, I would not mind loosing a few millimetres and get a very top end bat.

Krs · « **Reply #46 on:** October 18, 2013, 03:05:46 PM »

Just to show a side by side of a harrow and a SH i found this on the for sale section (Jake at Vita Cricket)

Note that the harrow is the same width as the SH.

So for example you can get a Custom Harrow bat with the same width for half the price.

Not bat really if your short.

Vitas Cricket · « **Reply #47 on:** October 18, 2013, 03:08:33 PM »

Quote from: Krs on October 18, 2013, 03:05:46 PM

Just to show a side by side of a harrow and a SH i found this on the for sale section (Jake at Vita Cricket)

[img]http://i.imgur.com/WKbesv4l.png/[img]

Note that the harrow is the same width as the SH.

So for example you can get a Custom Harrow bat with the same width for half the price.

Not bat really if your short.

This is not the best example in all honesty. Both bats are Pakistani made and are good examples of showing how Pakistani batmakers can be a bit 'lax' when it comes to getting sizings right/consistent. Both bats are supposed to be SH and are both labelled as such.

Generally, harrow bats are narrower.

Krs · « **Reply #48 on:** October 18, 2013, 03:12:39 PM »

Quote from: Vitas Cricket on October 18, 2013, 03:08:33 PM

This is not the best example in all honesty. Both bats are Pakistani made and are good examples of showing how Pakistani batmakers can be a bit 'lax' when it comes to getting sizings right/consistent. Both bats are supposed to be SH and are both labelled as such.

Generally, harrow bats are narrower.

Opps. Sorry

Would be great to have a harrow next to a SH. Would you be able to put the BS bats up? If I remember you guys had the same model in for both SH and harrow.

cleanbowled · « **Reply #49 on:** October 18, 2013, 03:15:15 PM »

@yvk3103 That is actually pretty interesting, makes sense sort of. I always figured whether you made up a Harrow bat or a SH, the cost was still basically the same ie one cleft and similar number of man hours etc. Given the differences in size are pretty small though I'd have thought you would have had to use a standard size cleft anyway, which meant the same amount of raw material.

Taking a guess here, but I assume by smaller trunks they are actually cutting different trees to use for harrow and other smaller size bats, and using different trees for SH and above.

Vitas Cricket · « **Reply #50 on:** October 18, 2013, 03:21:22 PM »

Quote from: Krs on October 18, 2013, 03:12:39 PM

Opps. Sorry

Would be great to have a harrow next to a SH. Would you be able to put the BS bats up? If I remember you guys had the same model in for both SH and harrow.

In terms of blade width, i measured both just above the toe tape:

SH is 108mm
Harrow is 103mm

Krs · « **Reply #51 on:** October 18, 2013, 03:32:36 PM »

Quote from: Vitas Cricket on October 18, 2013, 03:21:22 PM

In terms of blade width, i measured both just above the toe tape:

SH is 108mm
Harrow is 103mm

Not much of a difference at all! Thanks Jake!

Weight probably is the major diff, however a shorty looking for a 2.8 should defo look towards these harrows

Vitas Cricket · « **Reply #52 on:** October 18, 2013, 03:37:11 PM »

My personal preference is to have a bat as wide as the laws will allow, to help stop the ball hitting the stumps, but everyone has their own feelings on this.

When going down the custom route, all of this discussion is fairly moot, you tell the batmaker what you want and they will make it for you: full width blade, handle length, whatever you want. Will you have to pay $$$ for a true custom made? Of course.

Off the shelf it will be cheaper to get a harrow, but you do have to weigh up that generally they will be lighter and also narrower.

Kieron_BT · « **Reply #53 on:** October 18, 2013, 03:43:45 PM »

Yeah but just think when the ball just skims past your edge and you can think 'I'd have snicked that with a full width bat!'

Buzz · « **Reply #54 on:** October 18, 2013, 03:49:22 PM »

Quote from: Kieron_BT on October 18, 2013, 03:43:45 PM

Yeah but just think when the ball just skims past your edge and you can think 'I'd have snicked that with a full width bat!'

but then it hits the off stump and you think with a full width bat the keeper may have dropped it (and first slip definitely would have).

billyb · « **Reply #55 on:** October 18, 2013, 04:28:37 PM »

Quote from: Kieron_BT on October 18, 2013, 03:43:45 PM

Yeah but just think when the ball just skims past your edge and you can think 'I'd have snicked that with a full width bat!'

That argument just doesn't work though, does it, because those balls you hit off-centre with an SH will surely become closer to edges on a Harrow?
I'll take a punt on one when I can afford to eat again, and let you all know how it goes.

Jimbo · « **Reply #56 on:** May 08, 2020, 01:09:48 PM »

Reviving this from the dead a bit (thank you search function). Has anyone successfully made the switch from SH to Harrow? Interested to hear people's experience as I've been mucking about with a borrowed Harrow in the garden and it actually feels pretty nice in the hands.

Just considering it as I've always had problems with bat speed and playing the ball too late, plus I'm not the tallest so debating whether it might be worth a go now I've got plenty of spare time to practice with a smaller, lighter bat.

Sitonit · « **Reply #57 on:** May 08, 2020, 02:40:04 PM »

Quote from: Jimbo on May 08, 2020, 01:09:48 PM

Reviving this from the dead a bit (thank you search function). Has anyone successfully made the switch from SH to Harrow? Interested to hear people's experience as I've been mucking about with a borrowed Harrow in the garden and it actually feels pretty nice in the hands.

Just considering it as I've always had problems with bat speed and playing the ball too late, plus I'm not the tallest so debating whether it might be worth a go now I've got plenty of spare time to practice with a smaller, lighter bat.

I've thought along the same lines - but the narrower face width makes me a lil hesitant. Casually, if I find a fat n thick used harrow in round handle at 2.6, I will give it try.

Jimbo · « **Reply #58 on:** May 08, 2020, 02:45:26 PM »

I'd thought much the same but when I actually measured how much difference 2mm on either side of the bat would make it's pretty negligible.

jp2408 · « **Reply #59 on:** May 08, 2020, 02:47:04 PM »

I use a 2 8 Harrow with a men�s thickness handle from b3 and its great. Massive specs, feels like a wand and the face width difference is a quarter of an inch or 0.3cm each side - actually get a ruler out and look at that!

For me as a short (No Swearing Please) not having a bat I either occasionally hit the ground with or that whacks me on the wrist due to gripping it low down the handle (which happened a lot when I tried short blade long handle SH bats) was a revelation.

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